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<blockquote data-quote="wedgeski" data-source="post: 3161430" data-attributes="member: 16212"><p>The more I play d20 Modern, the closer to perfect I think its class system is, and I want 4ed to maintain the class system. None of this point-buy nonsense for me! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Six Basic 'Hero' Classes, each built for ten levels around one ability score; a selection of Advanced Classes to take you to 20th level. Essentially, take the Prestige out of Prestige Classes and integrate the idea fully into the core rules. Professions augment basic classes with additional feats, skills, and so on (the equivalent of Mythus' vocations I guess).</p><p></p><p>The PHB/DMG/MM holy trinity is so essential to D&D that changing it would be a big mistake, but more world-building and general DM'ing advice is essential (i.e. take the good stuff from DMG2 and throw it into the new DMG1).</p><p></p><p>In most other aspects I want as little to change as possible. Skills and feats need tidying up but they remain a great system. Ditto for the combat rules.</p><p></p><p>In general, between d20M and 3.5D&D, I think the basis for a great 4ed exists already.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wedgeski, post: 3161430, member: 16212"] The more I play d20 Modern, the closer to perfect I think its class system is, and I want 4ed to maintain the class system. None of this point-buy nonsense for me! :) Six Basic 'Hero' Classes, each built for ten levels around one ability score; a selection of Advanced Classes to take you to 20th level. Essentially, take the Prestige out of Prestige Classes and integrate the idea fully into the core rules. Professions augment basic classes with additional feats, skills, and so on (the equivalent of Mythus' vocations I guess). The PHB/DMG/MM holy trinity is so essential to D&D that changing it would be a big mistake, but more world-building and general DM'ing advice is essential (i.e. take the good stuff from DMG2 and throw it into the new DMG1). In most other aspects I want as little to change as possible. Skills and feats need tidying up but they remain a great system. Ditto for the combat rules. In general, between d20M and 3.5D&D, I think the basis for a great 4ed exists already. [/QUOTE]
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