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<blockquote data-quote="Warpiglet-7" data-source="post: 8102953" data-attributes="member: 7025282">Right.&nbsp; Civilization was the ‘villain’ here and Conan’s pure authentic self was ‘pure’ In its violence.&nbsp; Civilization layered a lot of pretense on their violence and it was deceptive.&nbsp; You know what you get with Conan.The other point is that no one is saying barbarian is necessarily ‘bad’ unless we are referring to pearl clutching nobles who don’t fight for themselves After starting a fight.additionally, barbarian is relative term.&nbsp; They are not from the so called civilized world.&nbsp; Conan knows that the civilized world isn’t always civil.&nbsp; Don’t we?The traveler more in touch with nature via a vis the craftsman in the city with his nice shop is baked in: barbarians have survival skills and pray to gods that city dweller might not.&nbsp; They might even whip him into a frenzy with a berserk rage.&nbsp; Barbarian is quite descriptive of one from outside the dominant established Culture.&nbsp;&nbsp; It’s a point of view thing.we would not say the goths or the angles or the Norse men were stupid or ineffectual.I say leave barbarian not in spite of its baggage but BECAUSE of it.&nbsp; There is no shame in by Odin!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warpiglet-7, post: 8102953, member: 7025282"] Right. Civilization was the ‘villain’ here and Conan’s pure authentic self was ‘pure’ In its violence. Civilization layered a lot of pretense on their violence and it was deceptive. You know what you get with Conan. The other point is that no one is saying barbarian is necessarily ‘bad’ unless we are referring to pearl clutching nobles who don’t fight for themselves After starting a fight. additionally, barbarian is relative term. They are not from the so called civilized world. Conan knows that the civilized world isn’t always civil. Don’t we? The traveler more in touch with nature via a vis the craftsman in the city with his nice shop is baked in: barbarians have survival skills and pray to gods that city dweller might not. They might even whip him into a frenzy with a berserk rage. Barbarian is quite descriptive of one from outside the dominant established Culture. It’s a point of view thing. we would not say the goths or the angles or the Norse men were stupid or ineffectual. I say leave barbarian not in spite of its baggage but BECAUSE of it. There is no shame in by Odin! [/QUOTE]

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