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Message: <blockquote data-quote="PMárk" data-source="post: 6918903" data-attributes="member: 6804619">All the adventures focusing on a limited part of the setting, but the other adventures don't handle the other parts of the Realms as nonexistent. Even OotA has parts that connected to the larger world above. All of them have the AL factions, even CoS, as a starting point, while isn't having ANY RL factions. SCAG speaks about the other parts of FR. We didn't even get a short RL web-supplement for RL. We got a supplemetn for MtG's own faux-RL for hell's sake! Meanwhile CoS mentions the bigger setting's existence in just one sentence. In a sidebar, that the original adventure inspired the setting and that's all. You could say it hasn't need to and that it's irrelevant from the adventure's standpoint, but sorry, I think it is chicanery. The adventure could be written in a way that acknowledges the setting, it's factions, it's wider implications, while maintaining the confined nature easily. It wouldn't take more space and the adventure would be just as good, while opening up gates. The "characters" are just one character, arguably the most famous one after Strahd, the one, supplements got named after: Van Richten, D&D's Van Helsing for D&D's Dracula. And even he got altered. Yes, it mentions he comes from Darkon, but doesn't say anything about where Darkon is. As far as the adventure goes and from a newcomer's viewpoint, who doesn't know anything about the setting, Darkon is just another country in another world and VR came here just as the PCs and Volo in the D+ short story. The whole thing is not the acknowledging of the setting, it's an easter egg.Strahd's arch-enemies, the Dilisnyas are ruling one of the adjacent domains. does this get mentioned? It could be easily integrated into the module, via NPCs.And why on earth do they have to massacre the arguably most sacred cow in RL and defining the Dark Powers? Ok, you could Interpret it that it's not the case, that Strahd was mislead, that the vestiges are just a proxy, or manifestation, whatever. Again, it's chicanery, because it's adding to the adventure's background content that wasn't there and probably contradicts with the intention of the writers. Ultimately, you could tweak the adventure to fill it into the wider setting, sure, no problem. I'd probably do that if running it ever, but it's not how the adventure was written. In the end, in 2e they broadened the setting immensely and made it into a possibility to using it as a main setting. During 3e, they made significant efforts to further building it into it's own functioning world, not just a weekend in Gothicland. Countless great supplements were written during both era that fleshed out the setting and made it unique. For example: one of the parts that I like in RL very much is how it's more 17-18 century in parts than medieval. Guns are, when not common in every domain, are fairly common in others and you could run into them in anywhere. I think it adds to the feeling, the original gothic millieu. Honestly that' one of the point, besides Ustalav why I think PF's Golarion's main inspiration was RL, because the whole vibe I get from a lot of illustrations in PF is just closer to RL than to FR, for example.Then, in 4e WotC decided to throwing out all of it and made the domains individual places in the shadowfell and 5e kept that approach and CoS was written with that in mind. So yes, they definitely rejected the way of 2e/3e, as a setting on it's own. You can't just pretend that deliberately doing things in a way instead of doing it in another as nonexistent. Yes, they didn't say RL is no more. They just went with the 4e way in the corebooks, written CoS without any real connections to it and didn't do anything, not a web-supplement, not even 1 page appendix, or a paragraph in the book about it. You know, there is a point, when not speaking is just a soft way of rejecting.I'm not saying they did it because of any ire toward the RL fans. Probably they have their perfectly logical reasons, but I don't have to like it, don't have to agree with it and don't have to pretend they did otherwise.</blockquote>

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