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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 6150697" data-attributes="member: 8461">You're incorrect on multiple points, here.First, my previous statements were just that: statements. They weren't directed at you personally, but at the points you were presenting. To say that an argument is &quot;disingenuous&quot; is - as you noted previously, but mysteriously seem to have forgotten - to say that it is &quot;insincere.&quot; Since sincerity means &quot;genuine&quot; or &quot;real,&quot; that's simply another way of saying that the argument you're presenting is not valid. Since the essence of having a debate is pointing out that someone else's point does not hold to be true (unlike your own), I'm honestly not sure what you're complaining about.In other words, I'm saying your point lacks validity (e.g. &quot;truth&quot;) as a quality. How you're seeing that as a personal attack is beyond me.Also, <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?337690-Narrative-Space-Options-for-non-spellcasters&amp;p=6150464&amp;viewfull=1#post6150464" target="_blank">post 205</a> doesn't have me saying anything about you being disingenuous, per se; rather, it's me suggesting that you're wrong to dismiss other people who use that term.I'm not. If, however, you're now saying you misunderstood my previous statements, and so can stop accusing me of making personal accusations, then I'll thank you in turn.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 6150697, member: 8461"] You're incorrect on multiple points, here. First, my previous statements were just that: statements. They weren't directed at you personally, but at the points you were presenting. To say that an argument is "disingenuous" is - as you noted previously, but mysteriously seem to have forgotten - to say that it is "insincere." Since sincerity means "genuine" or "real," that's simply another way of saying that the argument you're presenting is not valid. Since the essence of having a debate is pointing out that someone else's point does not hold to be true (unlike your own), I'm honestly not sure what you're complaining about. In other words, I'm saying your point lacks validity (e.g. "truth") as a quality. How you're seeing that as a personal attack is beyond me. Also, [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?337690-Narrative-Space-Options-for-non-spellcasters&p=6150464&viewfull=1#post6150464]post 205[/url] doesn't have me saying anything about you being disingenuous, per se; rather, it's me suggesting that you're wrong to dismiss other people who use that term. I'm not. If, however, you're now saying you misunderstood my previous statements, and so can stop accusing me of making personal accusations, then I'll thank you in turn. [/QUOTE]

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