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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Starfox" data-source="post: 6150891" data-attributes="member: 2303">The figher's 11 combat feats indeed means he has much greater freedom to select non-combat abilities for his remaining 10 feats. So in this way he should have access to some nice non-combat tricks too. The problem is that there are few non-combat feats of notice, and that combat is generally regarded as so important that to "waste" a fighter's feat on noncombat abilities draws snide remarks. Just like the fighter is supposed to dump his mental attributes to be a better combatant. The fault here is manifold - it is a cultural expectations issue, but also a problem with how the fighter class is built (MAD) and how much of his attribute points he is expected to devote to be competitive.Very much this. A character that was mistreated while charmed is likely to realize this and magical coersion should be illegal in most fantasy societies. A party that has access to mundane Diplomacy can avoid using the first case, and even if they do use it can treat the carmed character in a way that does not make him hostile afterwards - when he thinks back on his own responses, they make sense because he was treated well.</blockquote>