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<blockquote data-quote="sheadunne" data-source="post: 6151487" data-attributes="member: 27570">Ideally it would be the former but even within the actor stance there still needs to be some assurance of results regardless of the DM. If I want to use Teleport, I don't mind a dice roll to determine success, but it should determine success, even if it is a difficult number, regardless of the barriers. If the use of the player resource requires DM approval then I'm not sure it qualifies as a narrative tool. Which makes me ask the question, which areas are DMs willing to give up that approval?There is a difference I think between rules arbitrating a result and the DM arbitrating the result. In player stance, there still needs to be assurance that any given action will have a pre-determined result (failure means it didn't happen, success means it did; as opposed to failure means it didn't happen, success is up to the DM). I personally am not looking for an author stance abilities (it's the reason I don't use hero points, action points, etc in D&amp;D, they don't belong), but there should be some measure of certainty that we a resource is used, it's result can be measured by the rules. D&amp;D has traditionally left those results vague and relied on the DM to be the arbitrator of the results.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sheadunne, post: 6151487, member: 27570"] Ideally it would be the former but even within the actor stance there still needs to be some assurance of results regardless of the DM. If I want to use Teleport, I don't mind a dice roll to determine success, but it should determine success, even if it is a difficult number, regardless of the barriers. If the use of the player resource requires DM approval then I'm not sure it qualifies as a narrative tool. Which makes me ask the question, which areas are DMs willing to give up that approval? There is a difference I think between rules arbitrating a result and the DM arbitrating the result. In player stance, there still needs to be assurance that any given action will have a pre-determined result (failure means it didn't happen, success means it did; as opposed to failure means it didn't happen, success is up to the DM). I personally am not looking for an author stance abilities (it's the reason I don't use hero points, action points, etc in D&D, they don't belong), but there should be some measure of certainty that we a resource is used, it's result can be measured by the rules. D&D has traditionally left those results vague and relied on the DM to be the arbitrator of the results. [/QUOTE]

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