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<blockquote data-quote="sheadunne" data-source="post: 6152723" data-attributes="member: 27570"><p>I disagree. My issue is that the fighter can't do what he's suppose to be able to do. I want to move into the room and stand before the horde of orcs ready to fight them, become the target of their attacks. I look down at my character sheet and . . . nothing. Nothing's there that helps me do that. There are no options for me as the player to play the character I want to play. So I turn to the DM and raise my eyebrows. He shrugs and has half the orcs run past me and kill the rest of the party, when, let's face it, nobody ignores the guy with the weapon when he enters the room. Yet the DM controls the narrative and the player has no character options to challenge that. How can I possibly play my character when there's no resources on my sheet to accomplish it? There are no rules to support my actions, no abilities listed with the class. Yet the player of the wizard character can walk into the room, mumble a few words, DM rolls some dice, and accomplish what the fighter is unable to do, because I do have the character resources to make the orcs attack me. The DM has no choice in the matter. The rules say the orcs attack me if they fail their roll. </p><p></p><p>Now in real life, I can walk into a crowded room and yell, forcing everyone's attention on me. I can do this without someone else's approval. I've controlled their reaction. No "player" is controlling me. No "DM" is controlling them. Yet I'm able to do this. How is that remotely different than giving the fighter the same ability that I have in real life?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sheadunne, post: 6152723, member: 27570"] I disagree. My issue is that the fighter can't do what he's suppose to be able to do. I want to move into the room and stand before the horde of orcs ready to fight them, become the target of their attacks. I look down at my character sheet and . . . nothing. Nothing's there that helps me do that. There are no options for me as the player to play the character I want to play. So I turn to the DM and raise my eyebrows. He shrugs and has half the orcs run past me and kill the rest of the party, when, let's face it, nobody ignores the guy with the weapon when he enters the room. Yet the DM controls the narrative and the player has no character options to challenge that. How can I possibly play my character when there's no resources on my sheet to accomplish it? There are no rules to support my actions, no abilities listed with the class. Yet the player of the wizard character can walk into the room, mumble a few words, DM rolls some dice, and accomplish what the fighter is unable to do, because I do have the character resources to make the orcs attack me. The DM has no choice in the matter. The rules say the orcs attack me if they fail their roll. Now in real life, I can walk into a crowded room and yell, forcing everyone's attention on me. I can do this without someone else's approval. I've controlled their reaction. No "player" is controlling me. No "DM" is controlling them. Yet I'm able to do this. How is that remotely different than giving the fighter the same ability that I have in real life? [/QUOTE]
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