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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 5584558" data-attributes="member: 5890">Ah, you're totally right: I missed the summing dice thing because your complicated examples confused me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused&nbsp; &nbsp; :confused:"&nbsp; data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />.But rereading, I think I get it. And your solution fixes the problem ok.Personally I don't think that stacking up ability mod is necessary: once you've eradicated the duplication of static bonuses on multi-w attacks, the problem is gone.My personal fave (that I've never actually used) is to say &quot;static bonuses apply once per foe per turn&quot;. That fixes not only multi-[w] attacks, but also the berserk wierdness the CO board can get out of stuff like melee-magic-missiling a target 10 times in a round (the build is currently dead because of the revisions to magic missile, but could conceivably be remade if wizards got a basic attack spell that rolled dice IIRC).It also somewhat improves the value of attacks which hit multiple targets (which are currently considered to be overly weak).It does however result in a net reduction in damage overall (because most strikers should be making use of minor action and free action attacks), so it might need to be compensated for.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 5584558, member: 5890"] Ah, you're totally right: I missed the summing dice thing because your complicated examples confused me :confused:. But rereading, I think I get it. And your solution fixes the problem ok. Personally I don't think that stacking up ability mod is necessary: once you've eradicated the duplication of static bonuses on multi-w attacks, the problem is gone. My personal fave (that I've never actually used) is to say "static bonuses apply once per foe per turn". That fixes not only multi-[w] attacks, but also the berserk wierdness the CO board can get out of stuff like melee-magic-missiling a target 10 times in a round (the build is currently dead because of the revisions to magic missile, but could conceivably be remade if wizards got a basic attack spell that rolled dice IIRC). It also somewhat improves the value of attacks which hit multiple targets (which are currently considered to be overly weak). It does however result in a net reduction in damage overall (because most strikers should be making use of minor action and free action attacks), so it might need to be compensated for. [/QUOTE]

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