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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 1283629" data-attributes="member: 2011">What is this concept of the "action is completed"? There is a concept of the action being interrupted (and not being completed as desired), but there is no concept of the "action being started" followed by "action being completed". There are no rules for that. Please quote one.You declare your action. Whether that action turns out the way you want it to or not is irrelevant to your declaration of what you are doing."Most spells have a casting time of 1 standard action. A spell cast in this manner immediately takes effect.""You make all pertinent decisions about a spell (range, target, area, effect, version, and so forth) when the spell comes into effect."The caster effectively decides what he is doing and he decides everything when he starts casting (for a spell that takes a standard action). There is no "game mechanic" of this being segregated into multiple different components of the standard action. There are "game mechanics" that it can be interrupted (via AoO, via Concentration, via a Readied action), but once he starts to cast (which is often the condition for an interrupting Readied action), according to the two rules I quoted above, he has made all of the pertinent decisions on the spell.That's the rules.If you want to interpret them to mean something other than what they say, that's ok for your game. But, that's a house rule.If you still think you are correct, quote a rule that supports your position. The two rules I quoted do not support your position.You make the pertinent decisions when the spell comes into effect and it comes into effect immediately unless another rule like an AoO interrupts it. If it is not interrupted, it is cast immediately. Even if it is interrupted, it is cast immediately and normally unless some condition of casting is prevented (like a failed concentration roll or the line of effect being lost).And, this applies to all actions unless the rules specify otherwise.You declare your Power Attack ratio when you declare the attack action, not after you find out that a readied action tripped the opponent you were about to attack. The resolution of an action is only handled after all of the details of the action are declared. The only possible exception to this is Movement Actions where it is unclear.</blockquote>

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