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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mythusmage" data-source="post: 789628" data-attributes="member: 571">I agree. In any setting with magic and early contact the Americas will be much different places than they were in real life.As an example: In the Mythus setting, Epic of Ærth the Eastern Woodland Vargaardian (North American Indian) nations are fairly well advanced, and two of them (the Iroquis and the Cherokee) are engaged in a war against the Æropan (European) nations along the coast, and close to driving them into the sea.I should think the Fantasy Earth Mohawks would know about dragons. Now that I think of it, one of the prime reasons the Iroquis Confederacy came together on Dragon Earth was so the nations thereof could present a united front against the green dragon clan giving them such grief at the time. (The itinerant Tobacco medicine man with Call Lightning was very helpful in getting the dragons to back off too.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />)And just for the heck of it, here's a what-if for you:Thanks to judicious use of magic Bubonic Plague is stopped in its tracks. Indeed, the 12th and 13th centuries of Fantasy Earth Europe are much healthier and better fed. The increase in population leads to English, French, Basque, Irish, and Frisian fishermen going further afield in search of new fishing grounds. By the late 13th century they have established  fishing villages on Newfoundland and Nova Scotia, which makes getting to and from the Grand Banks much easier for their small boats.By the 14th century a number of the European settlements have achieved the status of towns, attracting trade from Europe, natives from the interior, and government interest. The Basque towns and villages establish a (tribal) government, while the other Europeans have administrators from back home set over them.While all this is happening fishermen are exploring up and down the coast in search of yet more fish, discovering more natives and, in the north, whales and seals.By the 16th century European settlements have been established as far south as real world Georgia, with whaling stations as far north as Baffin Island. Native settlements on the European model can be found further inland, and they are in contact with the tribes of the interior.At the same time there has been something of a migration in the opposite direction. While Europe's American Indian population numbers but a few hundred at the time, it is a vital one, and growing. In addition, intermarriage in both directions is vigorous and fruitful. In the New World the European towns are effectively half Indian in population, with the Frisian settlements Indian in all but name.In the meantime the Plains Indians have discovered the horse…</blockquote>

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