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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tellerian Hawke" data-source="post: 6548598" data-attributes="member: 6790669">You may indeed be correct; however, when in doubt, I follow an axiom that I learned in library school (I'm a librarian): When in doubt, catalog the item in-hand.What that means is, author / publisher intent is dubious and debatable, but there can be no doubt as to what is actually written in the book.[...]I just went and looked at the updated 3.5 SRD. They have indeed removed the "extraplanar" language. I did not have a copy of the SRD when I made my original ruling, so let's look at it again.The SRD says:It doesn't give the example of being immune to charm. But it does say, "for the purposes of spells and magical effects," to treat the monk as an outsider.That's still consistent with my contention: the monk is immune to charm (like an outsider) but also banishable (like an outsider.) You have to take the good with the bad.Of course, this is only my opinion, but I am basing it on what the rules say. The only way that my ruling deviates from what's written is my contention that becoming an outsider changes your "home plane." I did it that way in my game, because it makes sense; Divine Rank 0 Epics shouldn't be wandering the Prime. I want to keep the emphasis on the outer planes, so I made them say goodbye to their earthly (oerthly? lol) existence.I suppose that if becoming an outsider doesn't affect your home plane, then yes, a monk who becomes an outsider could not be forced from the Prime, since it WAS their home plane.But to me, that seems kind of silly. It's like you can't make up your mind. Are you an Outsider, or aren't you? It seems to me that when you become an Outsider, you're leaving the Prime behind, to join the ranks of those FROM THE OUTSIDE, i.e., from planes other than the Prime. I see it as a right of passage, as taking a step up to the next level of being. Staying tied to the Prime seems wishy washy. Isn't it reward enough that you can still be raised by mortal magic?At any rate, thanks for the heads-up! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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