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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2239923" data-attributes="member: 23094"><p>No.</p><p></p><p>His primary natural weapons are his Claws. His *secondary* natural weapon is his bite.</p><p></p><p>If he attacks with a claw, he attacks at his normal AB with that weapon, and applies his Strength bonus normally. If he attacks with his bite, he suffers a -5 penalty to AB and may only apply .5x his Str bonus. (Unless he takes the multiattack feat, in which case the penalty decreases to -2.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If he attacks with an unarmed attack (not a "punch"), then treat that normally.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>No. When he takes a full-attack action, he needs to decide what he's attacking with.</p><p></p><p>If it's his natural weapons, the he gets his 2x claws as normal <strong>and</strong> the bite at -5 and .5 Strength. (As you say, with the Multiattack feat, he can reduce the penalty to -2 on his bite).</p><p></p><p>If, instead, he wants to use his monk attacks, he must use them as his primary attack.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If, at this point, he also wants to use his natural weapons, they are all treated as secondary attacks. They suffer a -5 penalty (-2 with Multiattack) on their attack rolls and may only apply .5 Str bonus to damage.</p><p></p><p>Note that, depending on what weapons the monk is wielding, his claw attacks may not be available. For reference, here's the Cornugon from the MM:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>When attacking with his spiked chain (a two-handed weapon), his claws are not available.</p><p></p><p>Should the monk flurry:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Natural weapons are not unarmed strikes or special monk weapons, and so may not be used when the monk is flurrying.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>DR 5 / bludgeoning is overcome by any bludgeoning weapon.</p><p></p><p>Bites are piercing, slashing, and bludgeoning, and so would overcome such DR.</p><p>Claws are slashing and piercing, and so would not overcome such DR.</p><p>Unarmed Strikes are bludgeoning, and so would overcome such DR.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct.</p><p></p><p>EDIT:</p><p></p><p>In summation, assuming he isn't wielding any weapons, he may do the following:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Single Attack, Standard Action<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Unarmed Strike, normal AB, normal Str</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Claw, normal AB, normal Str</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Bite, -5 AB, .5 Str</li> </ol></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Full-attack, Full-round Action<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Natural attacks: 2x Claw, normal AB, normal Str; Bite, -5 AB, .5 Str</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Monk attack: normal AB, normal Str, w/ iterative attacks</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Monk attack with natural attack: Monk, normal AB, normal Str, w/ iterative attacks; 2x Claw, -5 AB, .5 Str; Bite, -5 AB, .5 Str</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Monk Flurry: normal AB, normal Str, w/ iterative attacks</li> </ol></li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 2239923, member: 23094"] No. His primary natural weapons are his Claws. His *secondary* natural weapon is his bite. If he attacks with a claw, he attacks at his normal AB with that weapon, and applies his Strength bonus normally. If he attacks with his bite, he suffers a -5 penalty to AB and may only apply .5x his Str bonus. (Unless he takes the multiattack feat, in which case the penalty decreases to -2.) If he attacks with an unarmed attack (not a "punch"), then treat that normally. No. When he takes a full-attack action, he needs to decide what he's attacking with. If it's his natural weapons, the he gets his 2x claws as normal [b]and[/b] the bite at -5 and .5 Strength. (As you say, with the Multiattack feat, he can reduce the penalty to -2 on his bite). If, instead, he wants to use his monk attacks, he must use them as his primary attack. If, at this point, he also wants to use his natural weapons, they are all treated as secondary attacks. They suffer a -5 penalty (-2 with Multiattack) on their attack rolls and may only apply .5 Str bonus to damage. Note that, depending on what weapons the monk is wielding, his claw attacks may not be available. For reference, here's the Cornugon from the MM: When attacking with his spiked chain (a two-handed weapon), his claws are not available. Should the monk flurry: Natural weapons are not unarmed strikes or special monk weapons, and so may not be used when the monk is flurrying. DR 5 / bludgeoning is overcome by any bludgeoning weapon. Bites are piercing, slashing, and bludgeoning, and so would overcome such DR. Claws are slashing and piercing, and so would not overcome such DR. Unarmed Strikes are bludgeoning, and so would overcome such DR. Correct. EDIT: In summation, assuming he isn't wielding any weapons, he may do the following: [list] [*]Single Attack, Standard Action [list=1] [*]Unarmed Strike, normal AB, normal Str [*]Claw, normal AB, normal Str [*]Bite, -5 AB, .5 Str [/list] [*]Full-attack, Full-round Action [list=1] [*]Natural attacks: 2x Claw, normal AB, normal Str; Bite, -5 AB, .5 Str [*]Monk attack: normal AB, normal Str, w/ iterative attacks [*]Monk attack with natural attack: Monk, normal AB, normal Str, w/ iterative attacks; 2x Claw, -5 AB, .5 Str; Bite, -5 AB, .5 Str [*]Monk Flurry: normal AB, normal Str, w/ iterative attacks [/list] [/list] [/QUOTE]
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