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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2240422" data-attributes="member: 23094"><p>Check the cornugon (horned devil) in the MM.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>When making a full-attack, he loses his claws (since they're holding the spiked chain) but can use both his bite attack and his tail attack.</p><p></p><p>Moreover, from here:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I see no limitation on a single natural weapon being used as a secondary natural attack.</p><p></p><p>Given these two pieces of info, I see no rules basis to support a "One natural weapon only" reading.</p><p></p><p>Now, if the monk in question were using a quarterstaff, or holding a kama in one hand, then his ability to make claw attacks would be diminished.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1. Don't trust the Sage farther than you can throw him.</p><p>2. The flurry rules state that, when you are flurrying, you may only use unarmed strikes or special monk weapons. Natural weapons are not special monk weapons. Therefore, you may not use them when flurrying.</p><p></p><p>You *may* use them when making a normal full attack action, as I outlined in the table. So the monk, when he decides to Full Attack, has an additional decision to make: Full Attack with additional attacks from Natural Weapons, or Full Attack with additional attacks from Flurry.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 2240422, member: 23094"] Check the cornugon (horned devil) in the MM. When making a full-attack, he loses his claws (since they're holding the spiked chain) but can use both his bite attack and his tail attack. Moreover, from here: I see no limitation on a single natural weapon being used as a secondary natural attack. Given these two pieces of info, I see no rules basis to support a "One natural weapon only" reading. Now, if the monk in question were using a quarterstaff, or holding a kama in one hand, then his ability to make claw attacks would be diminished. 1. Don't trust the Sage farther than you can throw him. 2. The flurry rules state that, when you are flurrying, you may only use unarmed strikes or special monk weapons. Natural weapons are not special monk weapons. Therefore, you may not use them when flurrying. You *may* use them when making a normal full attack action, as I outlined in the table. So the monk, when he decides to Full Attack, has an additional decision to make: Full Attack with additional attacks from Natural Weapons, or Full Attack with additional attacks from Flurry. [/QUOTE]
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