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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 1298342" data-attributes="member: 2629"><p>Sharp, pointy teeth, but no bite attack: the presence of sharp teeth and fangs does not make your mouth a weapon suitable for combat. That has as much to do with the body structure as with the structure of the mouth. If the teeth can not be 'aimed' correctly, they are useless as a weapon.</p><p></p><p>Even when the teeth can be aimed correctly (ie; a foe is covering your mouth with a hand), a creature with no bite attack that bites another creature should not deal real or subdual damage. Their attack form is not effective enough to deal damage. </p><p></p><p>Not only is this the rule, it also makes sense. Compare what a human bite can do to what a thrown knife can do. Tearing a little skin with a bite is not worthy of even a single point of damage. Do you think that your average person on the street will die from 4 or 5 human bites? Do you think it will knock them unconcious?</p><p></p><p>Perhaps a DC10 concentration check is in order (if something might be disrupted by the pain of being bitten), but beyond that, I'd not worry about a bite from a human except as a role playing device. If a young maiden happens to make a grapple check to escape from a burly guard that is holding her, you can explain it by saying she bit his hand then escape when he reacted to the pain.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 1298342, member: 2629"] Sharp, pointy teeth, but no bite attack: the presence of sharp teeth and fangs does not make your mouth a weapon suitable for combat. That has as much to do with the body structure as with the structure of the mouth. If the teeth can not be 'aimed' correctly, they are useless as a weapon. Even when the teeth can be aimed correctly (ie; a foe is covering your mouth with a hand), a creature with no bite attack that bites another creature should not deal real or subdual damage. Their attack form is not effective enough to deal damage. Not only is this the rule, it also makes sense. Compare what a human bite can do to what a thrown knife can do. Tearing a little skin with a bite is not worthy of even a single point of damage. Do you think that your average person on the street will die from 4 or 5 human bites? Do you think it will knock them unconcious? Perhaps a DC10 concentration check is in order (if something might be disrupted by the pain of being bitten), but beyond that, I'd not worry about a bite from a human except as a role playing device. If a young maiden happens to make a grapple check to escape from a burly guard that is holding her, you can explain it by saying she bit his hand then escape when he reacted to the pain. [/QUOTE]
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