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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7895043" data-attributes="member: 15700">Exactly.&nbsp; There isn't a separate category for unarmed or natural attacks; they have to fall into one of the above.&nbsp; So they fall under melee weapon attacks.&nbsp; But they are not weapons themselves.&nbsp; It's always been that way.&nbsp; And both the divine smite and magic weapon say that you need a weapon.Yeah, you've made it clear how you feel.&nbsp; But guess what?&nbsp; Jeremy wrote the rules.&nbsp; So his opinion carries a bit more weight on how those rules should work than your opinion or my opinion.&nbsp; Do what you want at your own table, as always.&nbsp; But you are factually wrong when you say the rules don't work the way they do. There shouldn't be a debate on this.&nbsp; We know how the rules work.&nbsp; The only debate is people saying they don't like it, and that's expressing opinion, not debating, since you really can't debate opinions (at least not get anywhere by doing so).&nbsp; I'm not going to argue with someone based on their opinion, because it would be like arguing why someone doesn't like ice cream.&nbsp; What's the point in arguing that?Divine Smite and magic weapon do not, RAW, work with unarmed attacks.&nbsp; End of story.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7895043, member: 15700"] Exactly. There isn't a separate category for unarmed or natural attacks; they have to fall into one of the above. So they fall under melee weapon attacks. But they are not weapons themselves. It's always been that way. And both the divine smite and magic weapon say that you need a weapon. Yeah, you've made it clear how you feel. But guess what? Jeremy wrote the rules. So his opinion carries a bit more weight on how those rules should work than your opinion or my opinion. Do what you want at your own table, as always. But you are factually wrong when you say the rules don't work the way they do. There shouldn't be a debate on this. We know how the rules work. The only debate is people saying they don't like it, and that's expressing opinion, not debating, since you really can't debate opinions (at least not get anywhere by doing so). I'm not going to argue with someone based on their opinion, because it would be like arguing why someone doesn't like ice cream. What's the point in arguing that? Divine Smite and magic weapon do not, RAW, work with unarmed attacks. End of story. 🤷‍♂️ [/QUOTE]

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