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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7897121" data-attributes="member: 6987520">As I said, but you chose to ignore, it IS still an issue when new players with newly printed books still have confusion about it. Then they get presented with SA via tweets and such and find out they've been doing it wrong.Now, 5E is supposed to be about natural language, so if someone without the JC ruling knowledge is "naturally reading" the rule in a way not intended, there is still an issue. You say "We all know the rule." but obviously the rule as written is creating some confusion even now.Not settled. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />The worst part is, given this issue and others that are still commonplace, it seems like WotC would update the newer printings with better verbiage to make it completely and undeniably clear. But, there is no sign of it happening yet (hopefully it is in the works).</blockquote>