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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7897531" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>I’m sorry, but you’re objectively wrong here. This isn’t a matter of opinion. I’m reminded of that Issac Asimov quote about the problem being people want their opinions counted as equally as fact.</p><p></p><p>the book doesn’t refer to unarmed attacks or natural attacks as “weapons everywhere it mentions weapons”. It literally says unarmed attacks aren’t weapons. It has “weapon” in quotes when talking about natural attacks, which if you knowhow quotes are used, tells you they aren’t really considered a weapon how the game describes that.</p><p></p><p>there are only four types of attacks: melee weapon, ranged weapon, melee spell, and ranged spell. Unarmed attacks and natural attacks have to fall under one of those four. Which category would you choose? That doesn’t mean they are defined as weapons because that’s a different thing. We know this not just because Jeremey has repeatedly said so, but because the book literally tells you unarmed attacks are not weapons</p><p></p><p>If you’re arguing that unarmed attacks aren’t weapons but a fist is, I think you need to step back and look at how your argument has progressed. Read what you wrote again. Even if you ignore the ridiculousness of that, the book gives examples of what unarmed attacks are, which include using fists. But that shouldn’t even be needed, because no reasonable person would say I’ve suddenly become armed with a weapon every time I made a fist, and unarmed every time I opened my hand.</p><p></p><p>So when the book says, “unarmed attacks are not weapons”, that’s not something vague you can disagree with. It’s a clear stated fact. Tell me what other way you can interpret that sentence?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7897531, member: 15700"] I’m sorry, but you’re objectively wrong here. This isn’t a matter of opinion. I’m reminded of that Issac Asimov quote about the problem being people want their opinions counted as equally as fact. the book doesn’t refer to unarmed attacks or natural attacks as “weapons everywhere it mentions weapons”. It literally says unarmed attacks aren’t weapons. It has “weapon” in quotes when talking about natural attacks, which if you knowhow quotes are used, tells you they aren’t really considered a weapon how the game describes that. there are only four types of attacks: melee weapon, ranged weapon, melee spell, and ranged spell. Unarmed attacks and natural attacks have to fall under one of those four. Which category would you choose? That doesn’t mean they are defined as weapons because that’s a different thing. We know this not just because Jeremey has repeatedly said so, but because the book literally tells you unarmed attacks are not weapons If you’re arguing that unarmed attacks aren’t weapons but a fist is, I think you need to step back and look at how your argument has progressed. Read what you wrote again. Even if you ignore the ridiculousness of that, the book gives examples of what unarmed attacks are, which include using fists. But that shouldn’t even be needed, because no reasonable person would say I’ve suddenly become armed with a weapon every time I made a fist, and unarmed every time I opened my hand. So when the book says, “unarmed attacks are not weapons”, that’s not something vague you can disagree with. It’s a clear stated fact. Tell me what other way you can interpret that sentence? [/QUOTE]
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