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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 7421838" data-attributes="member: 1465">If you try to model NW against a great weapon, you end up with giving a too big benefit to everyone who doesn't use a great weapon: the Rogue minotaur, the Cleric minotaur, even the Wizard minotaur... and of course the Monk minotaur, which I forgot to take into account. I think it's better to model it against a one-handed weapon, because the NW will at most always require one hand (if it's a claw) and sometimes not even that (if it's horns, tail or hooves). This means that the NW will always allow the use of a shield or any other object. But it's ok to model it against the best one-handed weapons, to make it better than a ribbon. Maybe d10 is better, after all, but I would not make it par with a Greatsword. I don't care if the Greatsword is better than the horns! It actually makes sense it is. The GWF minotaur is someone who learned to fight better with a weapon than with his bare body, like 99% of fighters after all. There are other race-class combos with duplicate proficiencies (e.g. elf and bows) and nobody is pulling hairs because of them.About Monks, they have very controlled damage by design, and so I would just rule that when using martial arts they can use their NW but the damage defaults to unarmed strikes.OTOH I would be in favor of allowing feats and fighting styles to NW when appropriate.</blockquote>