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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9189438" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>To be honest, people rely on them because this is the exception rather than norm.</p><p></p><p>That's why it sticks out so badly and why so many people here are aware of the issue.</p><p></p><p>Most of WotC's design is fairly reasonable. It's not perfect and I'll criticise every element of it that's dodgy, but generally, overall, most of what WotC does is better-designed than most 3PPs, outside of adventures. That said, the quality of 3PP products has absolutely shot up over the course of 5E, and some have emerged as potentially pretty reliable - I'd say MCDM, based on what I've seen have a higher average quality of design than WotC.</p><p></p><p>The other issue is digital integration. Because of the way Beyond works, it's not really trivial to integrate 3PP products, and you can't integrate new classes at all, sadly. Hopefully this will improve because it seems like Beyond wants to get cosy with 3PPs as time goes on. Perhaps because it seems increasingly like WotC will be competing against itself with Beyond vs 3D VTT as different solutions to similar but not indentical problems - this is tealeaf-reading on my part, but to me it looks like Beyond is going to try and aim to be akin a particularly slick and easy-to-use conventional VTT for people who normally play TT RPGs and have an RL group and so on, whereas the 3D VTT looks like may be attempting to target a rather different market of people who don't have groups for whatever reason, which is, to be fair, potentially a huge untapped market. However sometimes things that are untapped are untapped for a reason... Just saying.</p><p></p><p>Like I'm pretty keen to try MCDM's new psion class (I forget its name), but I know I'll have to work entirely off paper, which I can do but just inconveniences me in a slightly annoying way and potentially inconveniences the DM a bit too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9189438, member: 18"] To be honest, people rely on them because this is the exception rather than norm. That's why it sticks out so badly and why so many people here are aware of the issue. Most of WotC's design is fairly reasonable. It's not perfect and I'll criticise every element of it that's dodgy, but generally, overall, most of what WotC does is better-designed than most 3PPs, outside of adventures. That said, the quality of 3PP products has absolutely shot up over the course of 5E, and some have emerged as potentially pretty reliable - I'd say MCDM, based on what I've seen have a higher average quality of design than WotC. The other issue is digital integration. Because of the way Beyond works, it's not really trivial to integrate 3PP products, and you can't integrate new classes at all, sadly. Hopefully this will improve because it seems like Beyond wants to get cosy with 3PPs as time goes on. Perhaps because it seems increasingly like WotC will be competing against itself with Beyond vs 3D VTT as different solutions to similar but not indentical problems - this is tealeaf-reading on my part, but to me it looks like Beyond is going to try and aim to be akin a particularly slick and easy-to-use conventional VTT for people who normally play TT RPGs and have an RL group and so on, whereas the 3D VTT looks like may be attempting to target a rather different market of people who don't have groups for whatever reason, which is, to be fair, potentially a huge untapped market. However sometimes things that are untapped are untapped for a reason... Just saying. Like I'm pretty keen to try MCDM's new psion class (I forget its name), but I know I'll have to work entirely off paper, which I can do but just inconveniences me in a slightly annoying way and potentially inconveniences the DM a bit too. [/QUOTE]
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