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<blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 7576945" data-attributes="member: 3586"><p>Two types of weaponry produce "Melee Weapon Attacks".</p><p></p><p>* Manufactured weapons. e.g longsword, dagger, </p><p>* Natural weapons. e.g. claws, bite, unarmed strike</p><p></p><p>It is *possible* there is a third type, called an "Unarmed Strike". Urgh.</p><p></p><p>I classify unarmed strike as a natural weapon. (You can see the definition of manufactured vs. natural weapons in the Monster Manual introduction, under Actions). However, it's its own specific attack type. Either you attack with Unarmed Strike or you attack with Claw. The two are separate - you go by the title of the attack. </p><p></p><p>The trouble derives from 5E having two definitions for weapon. One is for type of attack - spell vs weapon. The other is for the item you use - whether a manufactured or natural weapon. </p><p></p><p>With the tabaxi, you have claws which grant you the ability to make an Unarmed Strike (a natural weapon) for 1d4 + Str modifier slashing damage. You still have your regular Unarmed Strikes (1 + Str modifier bludgeoning damage). The monk allows you to replace the damage die of either form or Unarmed Strike with a 1d4 or higher, depending on level, and the monk can do the bonus attack with claws or regular unarmed strikes.</p><p></p><p>Note that the tabaxi doesn't give you the ability to make a "Claw" attack, but rather an "Unarmed Strike". </p><p></p><p>The feat Savage Attacker, even post-errata, is badly worded. </p><p></p><p>Cheers!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MerricB, post: 7576945, member: 3586"] Two types of weaponry produce "Melee Weapon Attacks". * Manufactured weapons. e.g longsword, dagger, * Natural weapons. e.g. claws, bite, unarmed strike It is *possible* there is a third type, called an "Unarmed Strike". Urgh. I classify unarmed strike as a natural weapon. (You can see the definition of manufactured vs. natural weapons in the Monster Manual introduction, under Actions). However, it's its own specific attack type. Either you attack with Unarmed Strike or you attack with Claw. The two are separate - you go by the title of the attack. The trouble derives from 5E having two definitions for weapon. One is for type of attack - spell vs weapon. The other is for the item you use - whether a manufactured or natural weapon. With the tabaxi, you have claws which grant you the ability to make an Unarmed Strike (a natural weapon) for 1d4 + Str modifier slashing damage. You still have your regular Unarmed Strikes (1 + Str modifier bludgeoning damage). The monk allows you to replace the damage die of either form or Unarmed Strike with a 1d4 or higher, depending on level, and the monk can do the bonus attack with claws or regular unarmed strikes. Note that the tabaxi doesn't give you the ability to make a "Claw" attack, but rather an "Unarmed Strike". The feat Savage Attacker, even post-errata, is badly worded. Cheers! [/QUOTE]
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