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<blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 2031102" data-attributes="member: 78"><p>Consider what happens if the PCs cast Disjunction on your BBEG. As a caster, he'll be heavily reliant on buffs and wards as you mentioned. Without his magic defenses, an opposing caster will usually evaporate - unless it's a GW Dragon with 9th level spells (however, MD would probably be needed to stand a chance at all in that case). Even as an automatic area dispel, MD is pretty unfair. </p><p></p><p>Our game actually had a similar situation with a BBEG disjoining the high level party. Once we were disjoined (which went through my anti MD contingency spell - lucky DM), the group lost its wizard and cleric/archer almost instantly. Without spell turning or a similar spell, a wizard or elf cleric will be removed from the fight with Power Word Stun. Also, since we lost our energy wards, the lower HP spellcasters died from area attack spells. Fortunately, the group seemed to have a higher average Will save, and we were lucky, so we only lost a few items. Basically, we all would have died if not for using the reality altering aspect of Miracle (cast in a round about way) to undo the Disjunction. This fight was also the end of the campaign, so the long term impact of item loss was a non issue.</p><p></p><p>If you do use Disjunction, also have a larger than normal treasure haul so that lost items can be replaced more easily.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Victim, post: 2031102, member: 78"] Consider what happens if the PCs cast Disjunction on your BBEG. As a caster, he'll be heavily reliant on buffs and wards as you mentioned. Without his magic defenses, an opposing caster will usually evaporate - unless it's a GW Dragon with 9th level spells (however, MD would probably be needed to stand a chance at all in that case). Even as an automatic area dispel, MD is pretty unfair. Our game actually had a similar situation with a BBEG disjoining the high level party. Once we were disjoined (which went through my anti MD contingency spell - lucky DM), the group lost its wizard and cleric/archer almost instantly. Without spell turning or a similar spell, a wizard or elf cleric will be removed from the fight with Power Word Stun. Also, since we lost our energy wards, the lower HP spellcasters died from area attack spells. Fortunately, the group seemed to have a higher average Will save, and we were lucky, so we only lost a few items. Basically, we all would have died if not for using the reality altering aspect of Miracle (cast in a round about way) to undo the Disjunction. This fight was also the end of the campaign, so the long term impact of item loss was a non issue. If you do use Disjunction, also have a larger than normal treasure haul so that lost items can be replaced more easily. [/QUOTE]
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