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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Walking Dad" data-source="post: 5710651" data-attributes="member: 59043">Let's re-build the power completely from the effect:Summon (Minion) effect is originally a touch range effect with a cost of 2pp/rank. I increased the cost of the effect by 1 to 3pp/rank in my re-balancing.To avoid summoning always the exactly same 'creature', you have to take the Type extra (p 80). Machines actually sound more like a broad category, like animals, on first glance. But let's say the broad category is Objects and Machines are more like the bird sub-category. This increases the cost to 4pp/rank.This is actually higher than the Animate Objects sample. They seem to have silently included a 'needs medium' limit. We do the same and reduce the cost to 3pp/rank.(BTW, Animate Objects summons minions, too. It cites p 148 of the core, that declares them as minions.)For 30 ft range, add the Extended Reach Feat (p 94) 5 times. (Summon is a touch range effect)---Looks like it becomes even more expensive, if we start with the effect. Or did I miss anything?---Based on the Animate Objects power, you start with 3pp/rank. Still based on Summon, I increase the cost to 4pp/rank. Limited (machines) reduces it back to 3pp/rank. 30 ft range makes it:2pp/rank (reduced range to Touch) + 5pp (Extended Reach Feat 5)BUT: The machines will always use the stats on p 136f. To make your own stat builds (like a dishwasher with a ranged attack fro throwing the dishes), you still need the Type (p 80) extra.Also you can only summon/animate 1 machine at once, without the Progression power feat.Edit: On second thought, the medium requirement is much ore bigger for being specific, like machines. I make it -2.Reducing the cost to 2pp/rank (reduced range to Touch) + 5pp (Extended Reach Feat 5), but with the type extra, allowing you to have 'specialized' machines.</blockquote>

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