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<blockquote data-quote="Jemal" data-source="post: 5901845" data-attributes="member: 9026"><p>Alright here goes.</p><p></p><p>Didn't know that, was assuming human stats. Well she's half-human, and I just quite plainly cant afford it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's how i originally had it, I swapped to the feature b/c it still made sense, cost the same, and seemed simpler. I'll swap it back.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Just the Ultra-hearing, it's an accurate ultrahearing sense seperate from her normal hearing.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's actually one of the suggested limits on page 148. "Only while singing loudly", I just didn't write down the loudly part b/c it sounds weird when you're talking about a siren's song. Mechanically it's going to be just as noticable, just thematically it's not someone shouting out, but crooning. It's actually MORE limiting than, say "requires incantations" which is a common limiter for magic - that just requires you to be able to speak, this requires more.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Had to search several times to find the problem here, you're going off the Diminished range flaw near the back of the powers section, which is flat -1p per rank, wheras I was just going off the example Range flaw used int he Illusion entry which says -1 cost per rank. I assumed specific rules over-ruled general ones, as is the usual case with RPGs. </p><p>Which is correct?</p><p></p><p></p><p>It means they don't need to make a check to recover, I would assume (Considering it's the whole reason I took the ability) that they would still have to spend the required action to stand up. Otherwise I'll have to look into another way of doing it.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, this is the closest I could come to what I want the power to do.. I wanted her to be able to scan surface thoughts in an area rather than having to focus on people one at a time, and this is the only way I could think of to do it. Any suggestions?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmm, I'll add Area to the Enhanced and leave out the selective since it's already limited to people I'm familiar with. Basically it's her psychic equivalent of Shouting - Everyone she's familiar with in range(Which is the whole planet) will hear it, I guess.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually they don't have 'devices' in 3e, Removable is a flaw that can be applied to any power to show that there are ways to remove said power from someones use, Such as some sort of device or a known ritual that can remove the persons powers. I took noticeable to indicate that it was obvious that her armour isn't just for show. Without noticable, nobody would know that her outfit is any different from any other super-hero costume, and thus have no reason to take it away from her. </p><p></p><p></p><p>It's psychically charged, and as per Noticeable above, obviously so.</p><p></p><p></p><p>How dependant? and what would it cost to overcome?</p><p>---</p><p></p><p>So I've been thinking about this since I started the character, and it's a lot of work, tweaking and shunting things to try and make her work.. I've been seriously tempted a few times to just propose my TK Dude that I had originally been planning. I think we talked about that a while ago though, and you said you'd prefer me to keep Siren, so I don't know if I should abandon her at this stage.</p><p></p><p>I'm probably going to have to drop some of her fluff stuff though, to fix some of the other problems..</p><p>Benefit(Atlantean Royalty), Favoured Environment(Underwater), Speak with Sea Creatures - that's 3 points that exist 99% for fluff, and then there's the atlantean container which is 8p for the same reason but I can't drop b/c it's what she IS, and all of this when I'm tweaking and fudging, and putting stats and protection and saves into a removable device so I can afford to have about half the skill points I want, doing away with most of my advantages b/c I cant afford them, and loading every single one of my psychic powers into a single array.</p><p></p><p>gah.. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> Anyways, off to work now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jemal, post: 5901845, member: 9026"] Alright here goes. Didn't know that, was assuming human stats. Well she's half-human, and I just quite plainly cant afford it. That's how i originally had it, I swapped to the feature b/c it still made sense, cost the same, and seemed simpler. I'll swap it back. Just the Ultra-hearing, it's an accurate ultrahearing sense seperate from her normal hearing. It's actually one of the suggested limits on page 148. "Only while singing loudly", I just didn't write down the loudly part b/c it sounds weird when you're talking about a siren's song. Mechanically it's going to be just as noticable, just thematically it's not someone shouting out, but crooning. It's actually MORE limiting than, say "requires incantations" which is a common limiter for magic - that just requires you to be able to speak, this requires more. Had to search several times to find the problem here, you're going off the Diminished range flaw near the back of the powers section, which is flat -1p per rank, wheras I was just going off the example Range flaw used int he Illusion entry which says -1 cost per rank. I assumed specific rules over-ruled general ones, as is the usual case with RPGs. Which is correct? It means they don't need to make a check to recover, I would assume (Considering it's the whole reason I took the ability) that they would still have to spend the required action to stand up. Otherwise I'll have to look into another way of doing it. Unfortunately, this is the closest I could come to what I want the power to do.. I wanted her to be able to scan surface thoughts in an area rather than having to focus on people one at a time, and this is the only way I could think of to do it. Any suggestions? Hmm, I'll add Area to the Enhanced and leave out the selective since it's already limited to people I'm familiar with. Basically it's her psychic equivalent of Shouting - Everyone she's familiar with in range(Which is the whole planet) will hear it, I guess. Actually they don't have 'devices' in 3e, Removable is a flaw that can be applied to any power to show that there are ways to remove said power from someones use, Such as some sort of device or a known ritual that can remove the persons powers. I took noticeable to indicate that it was obvious that her armour isn't just for show. Without noticable, nobody would know that her outfit is any different from any other super-hero costume, and thus have no reason to take it away from her. It's psychically charged, and as per Noticeable above, obviously so. How dependant? and what would it cost to overcome? --- So I've been thinking about this since I started the character, and it's a lot of work, tweaking and shunting things to try and make her work.. I've been seriously tempted a few times to just propose my TK Dude that I had originally been planning. I think we talked about that a while ago though, and you said you'd prefer me to keep Siren, so I don't know if I should abandon her at this stage. I'm probably going to have to drop some of her fluff stuff though, to fix some of the other problems.. Benefit(Atlantean Royalty), Favoured Environment(Underwater), Speak with Sea Creatures - that's 3 points that exist 99% for fluff, and then there's the atlantean container which is 8p for the same reason but I can't drop b/c it's what she IS, and all of this when I'm tweaking and fudging, and putting stats and protection and saves into a removable device so I can afford to have about half the skill points I want, doing away with most of my advantages b/c I cant afford them, and loading every single one of my psychic powers into a single array. gah.. :( Anyways, off to work now. [/QUOTE]
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