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Necessity of a Social Negotiation System? – When Should It Be Relevant?
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<blockquote data-quote="MGibster" data-source="post: 9629213" data-attributes="member: 4534"><p>As I like to tell my players, "Social skills are not a form of mind control." </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In truth, in scenario #1 nothing interesting happens. Oh, boy! You've saved 10% on healing potions. Who cares? Even if cold, hard cash was important in the game, saving 10% is hardly the type of thing anyone is going to remember. Can you just imagine it? </p><p></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 10px">And lo! Morton the Bargainer spake, "Woe to me, humble shop keeper, for thine goods are priced thusly that I might need sell my first born as to afford your fine potions. Perhaps a bargain could be had, one in which you accept less coin than you have asked for, but one which will indeed put coin in your pocket and allow me to keep my first born?" </span></em></p><p></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 10px">The shop keepers heart was filled with sorry, "My good man," he said with a tear in his eye, "Never in all my years have I heard such a tale of sorrow to melt even the coldest of hearts. Of course, dear sir! You shall have a 10% discount on all goods within my fine establishment, so that you may afford my wares and keep your first born child!" </span></em></p><p></p><p>So let's look at scenario #2. On it's surface, no mother would sacrifice one of her children to the demon lord Gruk'Xelgoth. Would they? No. Never in a million years. Maybe. Sometimes. Medea murdered her own sons to get revenge on her ex-husband Jason. So maybe some mothers would be willing to sacrifice one of their children to a demon lord in exchange for something. Maybe mom's whole family is going to be ruined, but by sacrificing this one child the rest of the family will be spared. Or maybe the mom is power hungry and willing to sacrifice a child to attain her goals. </p><p></p><p>While social skills aren't mind control, if you know something about what a person wants or anything about their personality, you're more likely to be successful at convincing them to do something even if its horrible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MGibster, post: 9629213, member: 4534"] As I like to tell my players, "Social skills are not a form of mind control." In truth, in scenario #1 nothing interesting happens. Oh, boy! You've saved 10% on healing potions. Who cares? Even if cold, hard cash was important in the game, saving 10% is hardly the type of thing anyone is going to remember. Can you just imagine it? [I][SIZE=2]And lo! Morton the Bargainer spake, "Woe to me, humble shop keeper, for thine goods are priced thusly that I might need sell my first born as to afford your fine potions. Perhaps a bargain could be had, one in which you accept less coin than you have asked for, but one which will indeed put coin in your pocket and allow me to keep my first born?" [/SIZE][/I] [SIZE=2][I][/I][/SIZE] [I][SIZE=2]The shop keepers heart was filled with sorry, "My good man," he said with a tear in his eye, "Never in all my years have I heard such a tale of sorrow to melt even the coldest of hearts. Of course, dear sir! You shall have a 10% discount on all goods within my fine establishment, so that you may afford my wares and keep your first born child!" [/SIZE][/I] So let's look at scenario #2. On it's surface, no mother would sacrifice one of her children to the demon lord Gruk'Xelgoth. Would they? No. Never in a million years. Maybe. Sometimes. Medea murdered her own sons to get revenge on her ex-husband Jason. So maybe some mothers would be willing to sacrifice one of their children to a demon lord in exchange for something. Maybe mom's whole family is going to be ruined, but by sacrificing this one child the rest of the family will be spared. Or maybe the mom is power hungry and willing to sacrifice a child to attain her goals. While social skills aren't mind control, if you know something about what a person wants or anything about their personality, you're more likely to be successful at convincing them to do something even if its horrible. [/QUOTE]
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