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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 4833705" data-attributes="member: 957">OK.&nbsp; I think you may be wrong.That said, I will caveat that the established names may very well have had some home runs right out of the gate if they had come out fast and hard.&nbsp; But I still think that great publishers producing great product would have a much harder time finding buyers for on-going products.Apples and oranges.Yes. 3.5 put a major hits on 3.0 back stock and put everything in a tailspin.The truth of that is in no way incompatible with the lack of appeal of 4E 3PP stuff to the overall market.After 3.5 came out, new stuff clearly marked as 3.5 still sold.&nbsp; The weight of the impact, both to the finances of the 3PPs and the portion of the market that was ticked, both assured that things never went fully back.&nbsp; Plus, 3.5 was still 3X, so a lot of people were flush with product.&nbsp; Those things hurt.&nbsp; But the 3.5 market was still viable for a few years.&nbsp; The 4E 3PP market was pretty much DOA.&nbsp; Even for those publishers who did dive right in.If it was the same as 3.5, then sales should be BETTER for a whole new game, not far worse.I am 100% certain that you personally, Joe, would buy the stuff you are talking about.&nbsp; And I'm 100% a lot of other 4E fans reading this here on ENWorld would.&nbsp; But every one of you added together doesn't make nearly enough.&nbsp; The nature of the game and the nature of the fan base, as a whole, are very different.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 4833705, member: 957"] OK. I think you may be wrong. That said, I will caveat that the established names may very well have had some home runs right out of the gate if they had come out fast and hard. But I still think that great publishers producing great product would have a much harder time finding buyers for on-going products. Apples and oranges. Yes. 3.5 put a major hits on 3.0 back stock and put everything in a tailspin. The truth of that is in no way incompatible with the lack of appeal of 4E 3PP stuff to the overall market. After 3.5 came out, new stuff clearly marked as 3.5 still sold. The weight of the impact, both to the finances of the 3PPs and the portion of the market that was ticked, both assured that things never went fully back. Plus, 3.5 was still 3X, so a lot of people were flush with product. Those things hurt. But the 3.5 market was still viable for a few years. The 4E 3PP market was pretty much DOA. Even for those publishers who did dive right in. If it was the same as 3.5, then sales should be BETTER for a whole new game, not far worse. I am 100% certain that you personally, Joe, would buy the stuff you are talking about. And I'm 100% a lot of other 4E fans reading this here on ENWorld would. But every one of you added together doesn't make nearly enough. The nature of the game and the nature of the fan base, as a whole, are very different. [/QUOTE]

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