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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Takhisis" data-source="post: 5161755" data-attributes="member: 89689">As far as 4e goes, there are few options for "dark" heroes other then the striker roll. While a warlock or assassin can make a fine "dark" hero, other rolls like the controller, leader ect... lack a truly "dark" class, and as somebody who likes those rolls and prefers the dark side to the light one, I have been looking for a truly "dark" class for 4E which is not a striker, for a change.The class in question? The Necromancer. Necromancers have always been an iconic part of D&D really since 2e. The image of a dark mage commanding undead minions and draining enemies of their power with dark energy has been one which has been ingrained in the heads of some players, some who would like to see such a class in 4e.Now, I know 4e really dose not want you to be evil, hence why a Necromancer class has yet to be made, but 4e also seams fine with allowing evil characters  to run around scoring enemies with light based powers.(Paladins can be evil now...after all.) So if in 4e powers themselves are not inherently good or evil(If they where, evil paladins would be a separate class using necrotic instead of radiant attacks, same with evil clerics.) but rather the person using them makes them good or evil, then I don't see why there could not be a hero who uses necromancy perhaps because they have a morbid fascination with the undead or otherwise feel a connection to them. I mean, I don't see how animating corpses and draining people's life force is any more evil then selling your soul to demons or other nasties for power and wizards seems fine with heroic Warlocks. So, I really think a necromancer class would work in 4e, and is needed, so people who like darker/more sinister powers but want to play a non-striker have an option on hand.So, do any of you here share my sentiments? Is a necromancer needed in 4e? If not, to you agree there should be some non-striker classes with a "darker" flavor? If not the necromancer, what classes should those be?Also, on another note, for those who want a necromancer class for their 4e games, check out the "Dread Necromancer" by ThePlanesWalker of Wizards forums. It's what I use as a temp right now until wizards makes a real necromancer class and it works wonderful. It is also fully completed with paragon paths, special feats, epic destinies and high level abilities...and it all comes in a rather well made pdf. I highly suggest that necromancer fans or people who want a darker controller or leader(Since it can do either reasonably well, leaning slightly to the controller side.) check it out.</blockquote>

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