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<blockquote data-quote="RonYon" data-source="post: 3230952" data-attributes="member: 17396"><p>Cleric all the way.</p><p>Its has always(3.0+) been the best overall at Necro stuff,now it is even better than ever.</p><p>The Complete Mage book has a Alternative Class feature callled Divine Magician. </p><p>It lets you trade one domain for the right to add one spell to your spell list at each level that you gain spells at. The spell must be of the level gained, must come from the S/W list, and they must be from the schools of Abjuration, Divination, or <u>Necromancy</u>.</p><p>Command Undead. Magic Jar. Awaken Undead. All as cleriic spells usable as many times as you have slots.</p><p>Take this as a Cloisterd Cleric, trade in the Knowledge Domain( cheesy,I know) and still have two domains to chose for the sake of their domain powers. </p><p>Another way to go is to not specialize, but make yourself so adaptable that you can do Necro, when you feel like it, and pretty much any thing else as well.</p><p>Try this: Alternative Class Feature: Spontanious Domain Casting, from the PHBII. </p><p>Lets you pick a Domain, and cast the spells in that Domain spontaneously, in the same way that cleric usally cast Cures.</p><p>Which is what you give up to get this , but who cares? Your a freeking Necomancer, a Death Preist, not the freeking heal stick. Besides , even if you do decide to fill that roll, you can jsut fill your slots with Cures, and convert them to your Domain spells as you need them.</p><p>So, let me finish describing this trick.</p><p>Take the Spontaneous Doamin Casting Alt .feature, and choose Spell Domain( now Feruen free, thanks to the Spell Compendium). </p><p>This will let you prepare 1st through 5th level spell from the ANY arcane spell list, and cast them as many times as you have 3rd level plus slots to burn.All thanks to the Spell Domains awesome 3rd level Anyspell and 6th level Greater Anyspell.</p><p>You do need 15 minute casting time for each spell, and you can only have one 2cnd or lower and one 5th or lower spell prepared at a time.But this still grants you acess to most of the spells in the game. And of course, most of the spells in the game means most of the Necromatic spells in the game as well.</p><p>Undead Luitenant? You can get it.Disguise Undead? You can have that too.Ghoul Glyph, Incorporeal Enhancement, Mass Reflexive Diguise, all yours for the price of a copy of the spell.</p><p>Note that the last spell I listed isnt a Necromancy spell at all. It is a good way to move about in public with a small cadre of Undead, without calling unwanted attention to oneself.</p><p>Being a ubergeralist can help you be a better Necromancer.Mass Fly on your favorit Undead shook troops anyone?</p><p>All of the spells I listed last a relatively long time, thus granting benifit yet freeing up your Domain slots for your next use of Anyspell.</p><p>Of course you do need a copy of the spell. But unlike a wizard, you just need a copy. Not your own copy, just a copy.No tranlation into your personal magical script needed.</p><p>If your party wizard is up for it, you can just "cheat" off of him.</p><p>Split the cost of your prefered spells with him if his own choices dont suit you.</p><p>This Alt calss feature can be used along with the Divine Magician, in order to capture some of the 5th plus Necromatic Wizard spells you wouldnt have other wise.</p><p></p><p>Now, on the subject of Awakened Undead,nothing in the spell says you they are automaticly freed from what ever power you have over them. If you want to free them, I sugest a lot of diplomacy.If you are evil, and powerful enogh, you should be able to find commen cause with them.I say use Undead leadership and get your self an undead dragon big enough to ride, then Spellstitch it.</p><p></p><p>One last thing. I love me some undead. But after Caster Level 13, I might not bother with them. Necrotic Tumor becomes available. BEST NECROTIC MINION MAKER EVER?!!?</p><p>Now instead of Calling,trapping and killing Lesser Planar Bound beasties, or Lesser Dragon Ally bruisers, only to reanimate, awaken, etc, you instead Call them, trap them, and infect them first with Necrotic Cyst , next with Necrotic Tumor. Yours for life, or at least until dispelled(pump up those caster levels).All you need is some time and space to build that army of 15 HD dragons.Ahhh.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RonYon, post: 3230952, member: 17396"] Cleric all the way. Its has always(3.0+) been the best overall at Necro stuff,now it is even better than ever. The Complete Mage book has a Alternative Class feature callled Divine Magician. It lets you trade one domain for the right to add one spell to your spell list at each level that you gain spells at. The spell must be of the level gained, must come from the S/W list, and they must be from the schools of Abjuration, Divination, or [U]Necromancy[/U]. Command Undead. Magic Jar. Awaken Undead. All as cleriic spells usable as many times as you have slots. Take this as a Cloisterd Cleric, trade in the Knowledge Domain( cheesy,I know) and still have two domains to chose for the sake of their domain powers. Another way to go is to not specialize, but make yourself so adaptable that you can do Necro, when you feel like it, and pretty much any thing else as well. Try this: Alternative Class Feature: Spontanious Domain Casting, from the PHBII. Lets you pick a Domain, and cast the spells in that Domain spontaneously, in the same way that cleric usally cast Cures. Which is what you give up to get this , but who cares? Your a freeking Necomancer, a Death Preist, not the freeking heal stick. Besides , even if you do decide to fill that roll, you can jsut fill your slots with Cures, and convert them to your Domain spells as you need them. So, let me finish describing this trick. Take the Spontaneous Doamin Casting Alt .feature, and choose Spell Domain( now Feruen free, thanks to the Spell Compendium). This will let you prepare 1st through 5th level spell from the ANY arcane spell list, and cast them as many times as you have 3rd level plus slots to burn.All thanks to the Spell Domains awesome 3rd level Anyspell and 6th level Greater Anyspell. You do need 15 minute casting time for each spell, and you can only have one 2cnd or lower and one 5th or lower spell prepared at a time.But this still grants you acess to most of the spells in the game. And of course, most of the spells in the game means most of the Necromatic spells in the game as well. Undead Luitenant? You can get it.Disguise Undead? You can have that too.Ghoul Glyph, Incorporeal Enhancement, Mass Reflexive Diguise, all yours for the price of a copy of the spell. Note that the last spell I listed isnt a Necromancy spell at all. It is a good way to move about in public with a small cadre of Undead, without calling unwanted attention to oneself. Being a ubergeralist can help you be a better Necromancer.Mass Fly on your favorit Undead shook troops anyone? All of the spells I listed last a relatively long time, thus granting benifit yet freeing up your Domain slots for your next use of Anyspell. Of course you do need a copy of the spell. But unlike a wizard, you just need a copy. Not your own copy, just a copy.No tranlation into your personal magical script needed. If your party wizard is up for it, you can just "cheat" off of him. Split the cost of your prefered spells with him if his own choices dont suit you. This Alt calss feature can be used along with the Divine Magician, in order to capture some of the 5th plus Necromatic Wizard spells you wouldnt have other wise. Now, on the subject of Awakened Undead,nothing in the spell says you they are automaticly freed from what ever power you have over them. If you want to free them, I sugest a lot of diplomacy.If you are evil, and powerful enogh, you should be able to find commen cause with them.I say use Undead leadership and get your self an undead dragon big enough to ride, then Spellstitch it. One last thing. I love me some undead. But after Caster Level 13, I might not bother with them. Necrotic Tumor becomes available. BEST NECROTIC MINION MAKER EVER?!!? Now instead of Calling,trapping and killing Lesser Planar Bound beasties, or Lesser Dragon Ally bruisers, only to reanimate, awaken, etc, you instead Call them, trap them, and infect them first with Necrotic Cyst , next with Necrotic Tumor. Yours for life, or at least until dispelled(pump up those caster levels).All you need is some time and space to build that army of 15 HD dragons.Ahhh. [/QUOTE]
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