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<blockquote data-quote="WarpedAcorn" data-source="post: 7008635" data-attributes="member: 6819400">The key issue with Bladesingers from previous editions and the 5th Edition version is Bladesinger was basically reworked into Eldritch Knight. Bladesingers in previous editions were also Prestige Classes and not something you started out in. Their requirements encouraged a Fighter/Mage build, and ultimately their spellcasting was limited to combat oriented spells. Basically they were Eldritch Knights.The 5th Edition version of Bladesinger changes it up by being a full spellcaster and even specifically noting that they do not always use swords. In my opinion this means we have to let go of our old notion of the Elven Chain-Wearing Longsword-Wielding Bladesinger and embrace a different type of Bladesinger, one that is more akin to a Sword-Dancer.So basically, you have a split...the Eldritch Knight &quot;Bladesinger&quot; who focuses more on martial aspects OR the Wizard Bladesinger who focuses more on the magical aspects. I believe if you make House Rules to allow the Wizard Bladesinger to use Elven Chain then you begin to cheapen the Eldritch Knight. Based on what you wrote I think you definitely in a tough spot with reconciling the current Class Archetype with the Prestige Class of old. You've put a lot of thought into this judging from your original post, and I don't have any other suggestions to offer except a shift in view of what a Bladesinger is in 5th Edition.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WarpedAcorn, post: 7008635, member: 6819400"] The key issue with Bladesingers from previous editions and the 5th Edition version is Bladesinger was basically reworked into Eldritch Knight. Bladesingers in previous editions were also Prestige Classes and not something you started out in. Their requirements encouraged a Fighter/Mage build, and ultimately their spellcasting was limited to combat oriented spells. Basically they were Eldritch Knights. The 5th Edition version of Bladesinger changes it up by being a full spellcaster and even specifically noting that they do not always use swords. In my opinion this means we have to let go of our old notion of the Elven Chain-Wearing Longsword-Wielding Bladesinger and embrace a different type of Bladesinger, one that is more akin to a Sword-Dancer. So basically, you have a split...the Eldritch Knight "Bladesinger" who focuses more on martial aspects OR the Wizard Bladesinger who focuses more on the magical aspects. I believe if you make House Rules to allow the Wizard Bladesinger to use Elven Chain then you begin to cheapen the Eldritch Knight. Based on what you wrote I think you definitely in a tough spot with reconciling the current Class Archetype with the Prestige Class of old. You've put a lot of thought into this judging from your original post, and I don't have any other suggestions to offer except a shift in view of what a Bladesinger is in 5th Edition. [/QUOTE]

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