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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tessarael" data-source="post: 8999256" data-attributes="member: 12909">Action Surge at 2nd level Fighter from 5E D&D grants one additional action on top of your regular action action and a possible bonus action. Action Surge doesn't exist as an ability in A5E. There are combat maneuvers in A5E that grant additional attacks, but you need to look at those A5E rules, not 5E D&D.I understand your interpretation. The problem in that interpretation with for example Devoted Assault is that it can grant a cascading set of additional attacks, which is clearly unbalanced:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Max out the critical range to 17-20. Devoted Assault grants advantage on attacks (3 exertion points), so your chance of a critical is 36%.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">At 11th level Fighter with Extra Attack allowing 3 hits with the attack action, and two-weapon fighting for an extra two attacks, you have five attacks so there's only an 11% chance you do not get a critical hit; you have a 30% chance of one critical; 34% chance of two criticals; 19% chance of three criticals; 5% chance of four criticals, and 1% chance of five criticals. On average 1.8 criticals, from this first series of attacks.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">So let's assume you get two critical hits, particularly as you can get more criticals on the attacks that you're granting by further maneuvers that you activate by your ruling.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I now activate say Dispelling Assault twice (4 exertion points), which by your ruling grants me 6 additional attacks.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">For 7 exertion points, I have attacked 11 times in total on a turn. This is completely broken compared to 5E D&D, even with action surge, where I would have gotten only 7 attacks (3 attacks + 3 attacks (action surge) + 1 attack from two-weapon fighting).<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">And it's worth noting that these attacks are with advantage, and with the benefit of dispelling or stunning once you get the first critical to activate Dispelling Assault or Stunning Assault.</li> </ul></li> </ul>There's no way this should be allowed from a game-balance point-of-view.</blockquote>

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