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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8999519" data-attributes="member: 5889">Sure I will walk through the steps of my interpretation works:First Flowing Form. This is a maneuver that requires an action, and as part of the maneuver you "take the dodge action". So if you ascribe to the notion that once your action is taken, you cannot take a second action, then that means this maneuver simply does not work. You cannot take the dodge action, because you have no action to give. This is obviously not the correct interpretation, or the dodge language would not exist in the maneuver.Therefore, we can conclude that a maneuver can in fact generate new actions in a round. This is important when we come back to Devoted Assault, but I wanted to show a "non-attack" example to show that Devoted Assault is not a weird exception to how maneuvers work, there are others that grant these "extra actions"Now we return to Devoted Assault. Which says:"On a critical hit, you can spend exertion touse a Tempered Iron maneuver that you knowagainst the creature so long as it can be activatedwith an action or bonus action."As we noted from our Flowing Flow form example, this manuever is allowing us to use an action based maneuver (even though we technically have already used our standard 1 action in the round). But this is a perfectly normal thing for maneuvers to do. So now we a manuever to use, lets say Dispelling Assault for the example.Dispelling Assault"When you activate this maneuver, you takethe Attack action and make a weapon attack, aswell as any additional attacks granted by ExtraAttack."So I have just activated this maneuver, and the maneuver tells me to take the attack action. We have already proven that a maneuver granting us a new action is perfectly in line with how maneuvers work. The attack action gives me an attack, and extra attack provides even more attacks. Technically the clause about "as well as any additional attacks granted by Extra Attack" is actually superfluous, its not truly needed (because the Extra Attack ability already automatically works every attack action)....but that just reinforces that yes using this maneuver gives you the whole monty of attacks.And that's it, that is the most straightforward interpretation of the ability. Anything else requires you to suddenly say "well you get an attack action but not your full suite of attacks" or "well you can get extra actions but there is some limit on the number of attack actions you can get".....and none of that is contained anywhere within the rules.Now since you mentioned Furious Barrage, lets take a look at that manuever and see how it works differently:Furious Barrage"Make a melee weapon attack against a creature.On a hit, make another melee weapon attack. Youcan keep attacking until you miss. You cannotmake more attacks than your proficiency bonusin this manner."So important to note here, this maneuver DOES NOT GRANT YOU AN ATTACK ACTION! It simply grants you a melee weapon attack, no more no less. This is important for a few reasons:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Extra Attack does not work. As you are not taking the attack action, you cannot add in your extra attacks from this ability after you finish using the manuever.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Any ability that requires the use of an attack action does not work. For example, Two Weapon fighting requires you to "take the attack action", therefore you cannot use TWF with Furious Barrage. I can certainly respect if some DMs choose to allow it (as it intuitively makes sense) but by strict RAW you cannot.</li> </ul>But as we have seen, while this maneuver does not grant you an action, several other maneuvers do, and therefore when you get the additional action....you can take it as normal, as there is nothing in the rules that say these "extra actions" are subject to any special rules or restrictions</blockquote>

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