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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ratskinner" data-source="post: 7508128" data-attributes="member: 6688937">This matches my experience as well, although plenty of things in D&D beyond the spells manage to bug me as well.. It seems like once you get to about 10th, there's just too much to keep track of and the story just drags and drags behind the weight of the combat. Plus all the attendant homework for the DM. I just ran a 5e game up to level 8/9 and was relieved when the party TPK'd on a trap.I've run a few Fate campaigns, and I've seen two issues with advancement in "default" Fate:a) Fate presumes that characters are pretty competent right out of the gate. You don't have to wait through two years of play to gather enough feats and skill points to have the character you envision. However, that makes it harder to pull off the zero-to-hero thing with strictly the default mechanics. You can pull it off more easily with changing aspects to reflect the character's growth, or slightly less easily by tweaking the character generation/starting point or Stress etc.b) A "+1" in Fate is kind of a big deal, compared to D&D. This makes the advancement part of growth especially tricky in implementations like Fate Accelerated, with fewer places to put them. (It also leads to the funky rules about which skills you can advance and when to keep your skills in a "pyramid".) Personally, I just create a list of things like "Raise a skill from +1 to +2" or "choose a stunt", and you get to pick one each time you reach major milestone (different in Fate than D&D), but only once.IME, these aren't really all that big of a deal, except for old grumpy D&D players who really expect a traditional "leveling up" experience. Since Fate can efficiently cover more plot/story, the focus on that generally makes up for it. The real trick is realizing that Fate isn't about your character "leveling up" and is instead more about your character's growth. (Unless, of course, you have Took a level of Badass as an aspect.)</blockquote>

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