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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 5905245" data-attributes="member: 29252">Well, I'm not familiar with Crystal Lord, however, I can definately give some generic Gestalt advice (although most of these can get a little fuzzy):(spoilered for length)[sblock]1) Don't pair things that are too similiar.  Sure, the Fighter//Barbarian looks good on the surface, as does the Druid//Cleric, the Wizard//Sorcerer, or the Rogue//Bard... but they have too many things in common.  Each pairing only does slightly more than what one class would alone - similar skill points, similar BAB, similar saves, similar hit dice, and so on make for bad combinations.2) Remember the action economy.  You generally want to pair classes in an Active//Passive manner.  You want something to use your standard and full-round actions, and something else that doesn't burn your actions - so if you're looking at being melee, you want one side to have full BAB for the attacks, and the other to give long-duration buffs (such as Wizard, Sorcerer, Cleric, or Druid), really good saves (Monk, or whatever happens to be the save compliment of the full BAB class), or passive boosts to your primary schtick (such as Rogue for sneak attack),  Then there's things that break the action economy into little pieces, such as the Factotum after 8th level.3) Avoid MAD, look for SAD.  Sure, that Monk//Paladin might look like a good melee character on the surface... but you need Strength, Dex, Con, Wis, and Cha.  You've only got so many good rolls, or you've only got so much point buy... unless you rolled all 18's, but even then, you've only got so much to spend on the basic stat boosters - which means you want to pair things that use the same primary statistics.  Psion and Factotum (Int), Druid and Ninja (Wis), Paladin and Wilder (Cha), and so on make good combinations.4) Try to avoid pairings that negate parts of each other (some of this is unavoidable, though), and look for pairings that synergise well (yes, it's not just a buzzword for management).  A Monk//Fighter is horrible; You can't use Monk class features in armor, and you can't flurry with all but a handful of weapons, which loses you much of what you get from the Fighter (armor, shield, and weapon proficiencies).  For the Druid//Ninja, however... Ninja requires that the Druid be unarmored to use many Ninja class features... but Wildshape suppresses most equipment anyway, and the Druid can only use nonmetallic armor in the first place, so very little is lost.  Likewise, Wildshape gives you many attacks, as well as Pounce, while Ninja gives you sudden strike (which triggers on a per-hit basis, going great with the many attacks and pounce) and Ghost Step (a swift-action boost, wis-based, which makes you invisible - both more likely to hit and makes Sudden Strike viable).  5) Check with the DM on how he'll handle LA.  This isn't really specified in Gestalt, but if your DM says that as a starting Gestalt-3 character you can be a [Class-3]//[LA and hit dice 3], you should probably go for it; if your DM says the LA will cost class levels on both sides, you probably shouldn't.  Scaling templates (such as Phrenic, Half-Fey, Mineral Warrior, Feral, and so on) are recommended over non-scaling monster races (such as half-dragon, Drow, and so on), unless you expect the game to fall apart quickly.6) Be aware of power curves (you can also call this 'be a Full Caster, and something other than a full caster').  Full Casters (and Full Caster-cognates, such as the Psion and Wilder) start out relatively weak, but scale roughly quadratically with level (new, better abilities, with previous abilities improving automatically), while Melee starts out relatively strong, but scales fairly linearly (a few new features, and BAB improves, but that's about it).  Skill monkeys tend to start out with medium power and stay somewhere between melee and Full Casters for most of their careers.  You'll want to pair something that starts strong with something that grows well.7) Check with the DM on multiclass and prestige class rules.  Keeping in mind rule 2 (Action economy, with Active//Passive combinations being good), you may want to consider 'going crazy' with multiclassing on one side, as there are a lot of non-casting classes that are heavily weighted for the first few levels - an eventual build that will look like Sorcerer-20//Paladin of Tyrrany-2 (Divine Blessing for Charisma to AC)/Hexblade-3(Arcane Resistance for Charisma to Saves vs. Spells, Mettle)/Monk-2(With Ascetic Mage - for Evasion, and Charisma to AC)/Arcane Duelist-2 (Charisma to AC again)/Rogue-3 (for trapfinding, a little sneak attack to boost range touch spells, and UMD as a class skill)/Swordsage-2 (for a couple of higher-level manuevers)/Cleric-2(For a few select domains, such as Pride, as well as easy access to Divine wands)/et cetera - a build that quickly becomes very hard to kill, while still packing lots of offensive punch.In your specific case, also make sure you have the bases covered, so to speak - band-aids (HP healing), day-after pills ([Lesser] Restoration, Remove Curse, Break Enchantment, [Greater] Dispel Magic, and so on), trapfinding (That might be through the rogue class feature, or that might be by combining the Reserve Feats Summon Elemental, Magic Sensitive, and Acidic Splatter from complete Mage - Summon Elemental to send a disposable minion ahead of you to soak most traps, magic Sensitive to spot the discriminating magic traps that won't affect the elemental, and Acidic Splatter to destroy found traps physically, taking advantage of the clause in Disable Device that the skill isn't the only way to get rid of a trap), mobility (flight, teleportation), hard-to-fool senses (be that ranks in Spot and Listen, a one level dip into Mindbender to get the Telepathy needed to qualify for Mindsight from Lords of Madness, or something else), and offense (be that spells, Full BAB, or Sneak Attack).[/sblock]Edit: Oh yes, and don't forget Rule Negative 1: The goal of the game is FUN, first and foremost.  Be aware of your table's expected power level, keep to it, and everyone (yourself included) is much more likely to meet the goal.</blockquote>

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