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<blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 5500475" data-attributes="member: 63763"><p>The Assassin (especially the original kind) and Warlock have the most invisibility powers, both also have access to thievery. The Assassin and feypact hexblade are the 'best' choices as they both use dexterity, although a feypact original warlock has both eyebite and shadowwalk, it would just want to pump dex instead of int. [Interestingly enough, a feypact hexblade that multi's into Assassin can get shadowwalk as well].</p><p> </p><p>The best race may end up being the shade (especially for warlocks, it probably wouldn't be necessary for an assassin), but gnomes are good to. With the new stat options they can go with a Dex for the assassin and stealth [who doesn't care as much about charisma]. A gnome could also go with the Martial Power 2 Rogue build that is very good at stealth and can use Int as a secondary stat.</p><p> </p><p>Phasing is pretty hard to come by before reaching paragon tier, and even then isn't quite common. There is an assassin paragon path that provides phasing for a turn along with a spent action point. Another racial option is the revenant. They can be a former gnome (getting access to the gnomes stealth tricks via feats), they can have dex/cha which works for both assassin's and feypact hexblades, and they have a paragon path which gives the ability to phase for a long time as a daily [albeit it is sustain standard after the initial minor to start] in addition to the action point phasing.</p><p> </p><p>In terms of non-phasing ways to get through walls/tight places, warlocks and assassins both have lots of teleports (which are nice if you have line of sight but not line of effect). At level 10, the warlock has access to Warlock's Leap, which allows for a 'blind' teleport, not requiring line of effect or line of sight to the destination, which can be break for teleporting to the other side of a wall or door. At level 6, they also have access to both Mercurial Form [you are tiny for the purposes of squeezing] and Sand Form [You can pass through any opening the size of a single grain of sand].</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WalterKovacs, post: 5500475, member: 63763"] The Assassin (especially the original kind) and Warlock have the most invisibility powers, both also have access to thievery. The Assassin and feypact hexblade are the 'best' choices as they both use dexterity, although a feypact original warlock has both eyebite and shadowwalk, it would just want to pump dex instead of int. [Interestingly enough, a feypact hexblade that multi's into Assassin can get shadowwalk as well]. The best race may end up being the shade (especially for warlocks, it probably wouldn't be necessary for an assassin), but gnomes are good to. With the new stat options they can go with a Dex for the assassin and stealth [who doesn't care as much about charisma]. A gnome could also go with the Martial Power 2 Rogue build that is very good at stealth and can use Int as a secondary stat. Phasing is pretty hard to come by before reaching paragon tier, and even then isn't quite common. There is an assassin paragon path that provides phasing for a turn along with a spent action point. Another racial option is the revenant. They can be a former gnome (getting access to the gnomes stealth tricks via feats), they can have dex/cha which works for both assassin's and feypact hexblades, and they have a paragon path which gives the ability to phase for a long time as a daily [albeit it is sustain standard after the initial minor to start] in addition to the action point phasing. In terms of non-phasing ways to get through walls/tight places, warlocks and assassins both have lots of teleports (which are nice if you have line of sight but not line of effect). At level 10, the warlock has access to Warlock's Leap, which allows for a 'blind' teleport, not requiring line of effect or line of sight to the destination, which can be break for teleporting to the other side of a wall or door. At level 6, they also have access to both Mercurial Form [you are tiny for the purposes of squeezing] and Sand Form [You can pass through any opening the size of a single grain of sand]. [/QUOTE]
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