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<blockquote data-quote="Sejs" data-source="post: 1815057" data-attributes="member: 4910">At the point where he is regularly and consistantly summoning evil creatures.Other than that, not at all.Neutral creatures?&nbsp; Fine.Lawful Good creatures?&nbsp; Fine.Chaotic Good creatures?&nbsp; Fine.The rare, occasional, once-in-a-blue-moon evil creature?&nbsp; Fine...ish.Evil creatures more often than not?&nbsp; Not fine.Amusingly, I don't have a problem with a good divine caster using Calling spells to get evil outsiders, as long as they're using them for good ends.&nbsp; This is mainly due to a comment one of my players made to the caster in question:Ranger:&nbsp; *turns to the mystic theurge as the party is doing prep before assaulting the BBEG's lair, and after the MT has announced what his plans are*&nbsp; &quot;Hey, I've been meaning to ask you something.&nbsp; You're a pretty stand-up guy in your own way.&nbsp; I've seen you.&nbsp; You do the right thing and help out those in need.&quot;Theurge: &quot;Yeah.&nbsp; Where are you going with this?&nbsp; I've got things I need to attend to.&quot;Ranger:&nbsp; &quot;Well, what I want to know is - why do you keep summoning demons and such now?&nbsp; You didn't used to, ya know.&nbsp; But ever since we got that demonomicon off whatshisname it's just been succubus-this and flood-devil that with you.&quot;Theurge:&nbsp; &quot;Oh.&nbsp; That.&nbsp; I was wondering when someone was going to bring this up.&nbsp; It's simple - the things I'm summoning up now, if they die in my service, they stay dead.&nbsp; That's it for them.&nbsp; Finito.&nbsp; So as I see it, even if we lose, we win.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sejs, post: 1815057, member: 4910"] At the point where he is regularly and consistantly summoning evil creatures. Other than that, not at all. Neutral creatures? Fine. Lawful Good creatures? Fine. Chaotic Good creatures? Fine. The rare, occasional, once-in-a-blue-moon evil creature? Fine...ish. Evil creatures more often than not? Not fine. Amusingly, I don't have a problem with a good divine caster using Calling spells to get evil outsiders, as long as they're using them for good ends. This is mainly due to a comment one of my players made to the caster in question: Ranger: *turns to the mystic theurge as the party is doing prep before assaulting the BBEG's lair, and after the MT has announced what his plans are* "Hey, I've been meaning to ask you something. You're a pretty stand-up guy in your own way. I've seen you. You do the right thing and help out those in need." Theurge: "Yeah. Where are you going with this? I've got things I need to attend to." Ranger: "Well, what I want to know is - why do you keep summoning demons and such now? You didn't used to, ya know. But ever since we got that demonomicon off whatshisname it's just been succubus-this and flood-devil that with you." Theurge: "Oh. That. I was wondering when someone was going to bring this up. It's simple - the things I'm summoning up now, if they die in my service, they [u]stay[/u] dead. That's it for them. Finito. So as I see it, even if we lose, we win." [/QUOTE]

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