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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 1200435" data-attributes="member: 892">Actually, lying would not really be that lawful.  Lawful people keep their promises, tell the truth, etc. and thus avoid lying.  Lying about the competition would be seen as breaking the basic rules that any society relies on (that others are telling the truth).  Otherwise, communication would become ineffective, as no one would have reason to believe what anyone is saying.  Thus, by good old fashioned Kantian rules (and Kant was a lawful real-world philosopher if ever there was one) lying is simply not on.  In the real world, spreading lies about the competition can get one charged with slander or libel or false advertising.  In other words, for breaking the law.  Not lawful behaviour.  LE people would find ways around this, by "Technically" not lying, but implying things, leaving out information, etc. (the traditional deal with the devil tale is like this).  LN people would not try to find ways around this.  No double-dealing or going behind someone's back.  Everything up front and honourable and by the rules.  I think the samurai would fit in as LN.  LG people might (might!) try to bend the laws if necessary to save lives, or in an emergency situation, but would be really stressed out about it.Oh, and Veterinari from Discworld would be Neutral, in my books.  He happens to like laws because he happens to be the boss.  IMHO.More generally, I sort of see the good-neutral-evil axis, as usually a help everyone in need vs. help your friends vs. help yourself deal.  The law-neutral-chaos axis would be how you accomplish these aims.  So a LN dude would help those he saw as his friends/family/in-group, and do so by lawful means.  He would also likely have (lawful) ways of dealing with those in the out-group/not friends/outsiders.It gets trickier when there are different sets of laws, but the LN person would be inclined to both have a personal code that they would want to follow in determining how they act, and be more willing to obey the local laws of the land.  Where sets of laws conflict, the LN person would prefer it if there were an additional set of laws on how to deal with conflicts between different sets of laws (a UN or Geneva convention or something).  They would be unhappy "winging it", but if forced to would fall back on their traditions, codes of honour, etc.</blockquote>

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