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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6962818" data-attributes="member: 42582">4e handles a lot of this: changing the number of combat encounters per rest won't cause intraparty imabalance; it has D&amp;D-style magic; it has good mechanics for intrigue, social stuff, and &quot;exploration&quot; (if that is handled via skill challenges rather than traditional hex-crawl or dungeon-crawl style). It has crunchy combat and works best for player-driven gaming.4e is probably not a good fit, though, for players who are only going to engage in combat if the odds shift wildly in their favour. 4e does not have to be &quot;combat as solution of first resort&quot;, but I'm not sure it is well-suited to &quot;combat as solution of last resort&quot; either. At least in its mechanical presentation, it seems to treat violence as the ultimate means of resolving disputes - whether disputes between orcs and homesteaders, disputes between vassals and lords, or disputes between gods and primordials.Everything that [MENTION=65151]knasser[/MENTION] says makes me think that Burning Wheel would be worth checking out.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6962818, member: 42582"] 4e handles a lot of this: changing the number of combat encounters per rest won't cause intraparty imabalance; it has D&D-style magic; it has good mechanics for intrigue, social stuff, and "exploration" (if that is handled via skill challenges rather than traditional hex-crawl or dungeon-crawl style). It has crunchy combat and works best for player-driven gaming. 4e is probably not a good fit, though, for players who are only going to engage in combat if the odds shift wildly in their favour. 4e does not have to be "combat as solution of first resort", but I'm not sure it is well-suited to "combat as solution of last resort" either. At least in its mechanical presentation, it seems to treat violence as the ultimate means of resolving disputes - whether disputes between orcs and homesteaders, disputes between vassals and lords, or disputes between gods and primordials. Everything that [MENTION=65151]knasser[/MENTION] says makes me think that Burning Wheel would be worth checking out. [/QUOTE]

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