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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Coredump" data-source="post: 2321709" data-attributes="member: 6939">The bugbears are 'in combat' already. They are aware of the PC's, they take an action to prepare, and then are holding their action (or readying) waiting for the PC's to round the corner. They have had "a chance to act" and thus are not flat footed.[note: I would allow the Chimera a suprise round action besides tearing down the tapestry. (assuming it was a fairly easy action.) So if it moved 30' into the room, fine, but if it just ripped the curtain down, I would still let it attack.]Again, the Chimera has had a 'chance to act', and thus is not flatfooted. The rogue cannot 'beat' the chimera, since the chimera has already acted. I went and re-read the rules. And yes, if I squint in a dark room and hold the book at just the right angle...I can see the point your players are making. Not that they are intending it, but it comes across as sever rules lawyering.They want. "You have no idea the chimera is there, it tears down the tapestry, totally surprising you, and runs into the room." then "But since you rolled well, I guess somehow it is now unable to act so you can sneak attack it" Yeah, like that makes any sense.</blockquote>