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Message: <blockquote data-quote="PatrickLawinger" data-source="post: 2669559" data-attributes="member: 2735">I was guessing that it was going to be a separate entity but this doesn't seem clear from the information provided. If it is separate and pays for its use of bandwith, etc., I don't see how there can be that many complaints. If you ever need to do another fund raiser though, I am not sure how well that is going to fly.As for the rest, I guess I'll just wait and see. As for people complaining about "clicks." Well, any sale you didn't get from a press release here that people couldn't get to in 3 clicks or less is a sale you wouldn't have gotten if you didn't have a press release here at all so I don't really see that complaint. I honestly think the "click" discussion has gotten a bit silly in that respect.I would be more concerned about the appearance or reputation of bias. This is something that can hurt the site and the Ennies (as they are both related). It is easy to say "Nope" but it would be better to set things out clearly from the beginning. For example, it should be made clear that .pdf publishers that sell through ENShop must go through the same expenses to submit products for the Ennies (mailing in a CD, etc.) as those that don't. Publishers selling through ENShop should have to go through the same steps to get staff reviews of products as others, and so on.I do expect that publishers that can't link as easily are still going to do PR here, I do admit that they might spend more of their time using other avenues for PR and advertising though. Some people say that will "hurt" the site. I honestly don't know about that. I am sure those publishers that stick around here and answer posts are still going to be around. Frankly, lately a lot of the larger publishers with their own forums stick to those.  Just more opinions from a tired, half-incoherent dad ...Patrick</blockquote>

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