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<blockquote data-quote="Steve Conan Trustrum" data-source="post: 2686985" data-attributes="member: 1620"><p>You're arguing under the assumption that everyone who browses here also wants to shop primarily here. All these members who have been here for years have been using sites other than ENWorld if they've been buying PDFs up until this store opened. If they're a typical consumer, they'll like to shop around for the best price but they'll also like to consolidate their shopping at one location as much as posssible. That means they'd rather shop at one place to get all their PDFs and not get one thing here, one thing at RPGnow and one thing at Drivethru. Sure, people will do it if they have to, but if given the choice most poeople would rather do it all in one go. EnWorld does not have as many vendors as most of the other sites. In fact, some of the vendors who are here and elsewhere don't have their entire catalogues available at EnWorld. There are, really, LOTS of reasons why someone may choose to come to EnWorld and yet decide to shop somewhere else (EDIT: and that goes for any store, not just EnWorld.) Living under the assumption that EnWorld Reader/Community Member also equates EnWorld Shopper is not only an erroneous conclusion for a vendor to make, but it's one that is almost certainly damaging to their business. Add to the fact that if such people browsing this forum were already shopping for PDFs based on any press release I or anyone else posts here, how does it now offer any benefit to still be selling to them but at a new location? Now, I've nothing against the EnWorld store, but the arguement you put forth above is simply not at all inline with actually doing business.</p><p></p><p>There's also a misconception about the advantage of the login. A typical browser, for the sake of expediency, turns on their cookies and auto password. That means following one click in a press release directly to a product purchase page is only slightly less likely if they were going to, say, Drivethru where they auto login, than it would if they were going to another store. Having one's auto login on at another site you switch to is the same as using the same login here. The people it's most likely to be convenient to are the extremely security aware (people who never leave auto login on) and people who shop from school libraries, Internet cafes, and other public places of the like. And, at this point, it's still very much a trade off until (if?) EnWorld's store gets up to speed with the other vendors out there.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Let me ask you this: if you're selling a product--anything, it doesn't have to be a rpg--would you consider it best to be able to diversify your product at different storefronts to spread it out to bigger markets or keep it all in one place? Now, from the perspective of making people aware of that product, what do you think is more likely to do you good: only pointing people to one store or all the stores you offer the product at?</p><p></p><p>The reason why so many publishers--myself included--is because what's good for EnWorld's self-sufficiency doesn't necessarily mean good tidings for publishers who have to consider a much broader picture that extends well beyond EnWorld. Morrus and I may disagree over the extent of how far this goes, but from our conversation in this thread I definately got the impression that he understood that and recognizes it as a legitimate concern for publishers, even if it isn't a concern of EnWorld's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steve Conan Trustrum, post: 2686985, member: 1620"] You're arguing under the assumption that everyone who browses here also wants to shop primarily here. All these members who have been here for years have been using sites other than ENWorld if they've been buying PDFs up until this store opened. If they're a typical consumer, they'll like to shop around for the best price but they'll also like to consolidate their shopping at one location as much as posssible. That means they'd rather shop at one place to get all their PDFs and not get one thing here, one thing at RPGnow and one thing at Drivethru. Sure, people will do it if they have to, but if given the choice most poeople would rather do it all in one go. EnWorld does not have as many vendors as most of the other sites. In fact, some of the vendors who are here and elsewhere don't have their entire catalogues available at EnWorld. There are, really, LOTS of reasons why someone may choose to come to EnWorld and yet decide to shop somewhere else (EDIT: and that goes for any store, not just EnWorld.) Living under the assumption that EnWorld Reader/Community Member also equates EnWorld Shopper is not only an erroneous conclusion for a vendor to make, but it's one that is almost certainly damaging to their business. Add to the fact that if such people browsing this forum were already shopping for PDFs based on any press release I or anyone else posts here, how does it now offer any benefit to still be selling to them but at a new location? Now, I've nothing against the EnWorld store, but the arguement you put forth above is simply not at all inline with actually doing business. There's also a misconception about the advantage of the login. A typical browser, for the sake of expediency, turns on their cookies and auto password. That means following one click in a press release directly to a product purchase page is only slightly less likely if they were going to, say, Drivethru where they auto login, than it would if they were going to another store. Having one's auto login on at another site you switch to is the same as using the same login here. The people it's most likely to be convenient to are the extremely security aware (people who never leave auto login on) and people who shop from school libraries, Internet cafes, and other public places of the like. And, at this point, it's still very much a trade off until (if?) EnWorld's store gets up to speed with the other vendors out there. Let me ask you this: if you're selling a product--anything, it doesn't have to be a rpg--would you consider it best to be able to diversify your product at different storefronts to spread it out to bigger markets or keep it all in one place? Now, from the perspective of making people aware of that product, what do you think is more likely to do you good: only pointing people to one store or all the stores you offer the product at? The reason why so many publishers--myself included--is because what's good for EnWorld's self-sufficiency doesn't necessarily mean good tidings for publishers who have to consider a much broader picture that extends well beyond EnWorld. Morrus and I may disagree over the extent of how far this goes, but from our conversation in this thread I definately got the impression that he understood that and recognizes it as a legitimate concern for publishers, even if it isn't a concern of EnWorld's. [/QUOTE]
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