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<blockquote data-quote="heapswife" data-source="post: 2693498" data-attributes="member: 20987"><p>I don't think that anyone plans to shop primarily anywhere. Is there anyone who shops exclusively at Amazon for all of their sundry needs, book releated or otherwise? I doubt anyone is going to switch exclusively to the Enworld store, largely because, I doubt that they will carry every pdf which exists on the market. Just as I strongly doubt that RPGnow or Drivethru-rpg do. </p><p></p><p>Now, my only exposure to purchasing PDFs is through my husband, who shops at many different major storefronts and even a few obscure ones. Patently, he is probably an abnormal user. I just, as a consumer, feel slightly offended that you have such a low opinion of us (consumers) especially in this very specific market. Now, I'm not trying to be elitist, and if I come of that way I apologize in advance. But the person who mentioned before that they conduct market studies in their "day job" are doing so in a random sampling of the population (yes, everyone who has taken a course on research methods, cringe). But in the gaming community what you have is already a skewed sample. You're dealing with the second and third deviation of a standard distribution. You're dealing with professionals, with college-educated, or currently being college-educated individuals. Your entire sample is the smallest fraction of what would normally occur in a random sampling.</p><p></p><p>The people who come here are more than versatile enough to recognize that you're probably offering your product at RPG now, even if you don't say so. You can never apply the generalities of any study to an obscure, skewed group. It doesn't work. It's bad research application. So what I'm saying is this.... I guess. You are well within your rights to talk about the bottom line if you really think you'll be affected. But have you ever thought that maybe people don't even bother clicking on your link, and if they're interested by the press release might go directly to an outlet they're sure they'll find your product at? I mean really. Either this will work, and Morrus will be happy that enworld becomes self-sufficient, or it won't because everyone is more willing to give their money to RPG now. If your argument is that not being able to link to RPG in your press release HERE will in any way affect your sales... I'm sorry, but that doesn't seem realistic.</p><p></p><p>Now... at the risk of sounding overly critical, I think, Morrus, that you handled all of this in the worst possible way. There are so many differect tactics through which you could have garnered support for the enworld store from publishers. You could have sold your "product" and idea, and probably had their full cooperation, but instead you chose to take the most alienating and offensive route available. Instead of presenting it as a possible way to increase their sales, or making sure that you kept the enworld store separate from the enworld community, you shot yourself in the foot by legislating behavior that really shouldn't be tied to the community at all. I mean, it's done now, you can't undo the past. But maybe in the future you might consider that you aren't doing this alone, and it's the contributions of everyone that make a community worth being a part of.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="heapswife, post: 2693498, member: 20987"] I don't think that anyone plans to shop primarily anywhere. Is there anyone who shops exclusively at Amazon for all of their sundry needs, book releated or otherwise? I doubt anyone is going to switch exclusively to the Enworld store, largely because, I doubt that they will carry every pdf which exists on the market. Just as I strongly doubt that RPGnow or Drivethru-rpg do. Now, my only exposure to purchasing PDFs is through my husband, who shops at many different major storefronts and even a few obscure ones. Patently, he is probably an abnormal user. I just, as a consumer, feel slightly offended that you have such a low opinion of us (consumers) especially in this very specific market. Now, I'm not trying to be elitist, and if I come of that way I apologize in advance. But the person who mentioned before that they conduct market studies in their "day job" are doing so in a random sampling of the population (yes, everyone who has taken a course on research methods, cringe). But in the gaming community what you have is already a skewed sample. You're dealing with the second and third deviation of a standard distribution. You're dealing with professionals, with college-educated, or currently being college-educated individuals. Your entire sample is the smallest fraction of what would normally occur in a random sampling. The people who come here are more than versatile enough to recognize that you're probably offering your product at RPG now, even if you don't say so. You can never apply the generalities of any study to an obscure, skewed group. It doesn't work. It's bad research application. So what I'm saying is this.... I guess. You are well within your rights to talk about the bottom line if you really think you'll be affected. But have you ever thought that maybe people don't even bother clicking on your link, and if they're interested by the press release might go directly to an outlet they're sure they'll find your product at? I mean really. Either this will work, and Morrus will be happy that enworld becomes self-sufficient, or it won't because everyone is more willing to give their money to RPG now. If your argument is that not being able to link to RPG in your press release HERE will in any way affect your sales... I'm sorry, but that doesn't seem realistic. Now... at the risk of sounding overly critical, I think, Morrus, that you handled all of this in the worst possible way. There are so many differect tactics through which you could have garnered support for the enworld store from publishers. You could have sold your "product" and idea, and probably had their full cooperation, but instead you chose to take the most alienating and offensive route available. Instead of presenting it as a possible way to increase their sales, or making sure that you kept the enworld store separate from the enworld community, you shot yourself in the foot by legislating behavior that really shouldn't be tied to the community at all. I mean, it's done now, you can't undo the past. But maybe in the future you might consider that you aren't doing this alone, and it's the contributions of everyone that make a community worth being a part of. [/QUOTE]
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