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<blockquote data-quote="cjosephs1s" data-source="post: 5714250" data-attributes="member: 6683450">I fail to see how when a monk turns level 20 and turns to an outsider that a lot of buffs don't work on him?&nbsp; &nbsp;The warblade/beguiler would be tough.&nbsp; Melee or spellcasting is at your disposal and reflex is your only bad save.&nbsp; Manuevers and stances can be taken to bolster your defenses or take things that are swift actions or immediate actions so you can still do whatever plus something cool.&nbsp; You still get all the beguiler skills so he can be sneaky and stealthy and all that stuff.&nbsp; Now he's tough enough to wade into melee to use the beguilers casting buffs.&nbsp; Plus bonus feats from warblade so your not using your core ones to bolster your other class, they can go for beguiler stuff.&nbsp; About the only thing this guy doesn't do is sneak attack, cast divine spells, or turn undead.&nbsp; Sounds like a pretty good combo.&nbsp; Make him Dex based fighter type though as this will bump your AC for light armor.&nbsp; &nbsp;I think its a PrC for Defense:&nbsp; dwarven defender.&nbsp; I remember something about them being able to take a beating.&nbsp; &nbsp;Overall advice I'd take your base classes till at least the high teens and wait to PrC until Epic as base classes get bupkiss then.&nbsp; Unless&nbsp; you can do racial progressions or add templates as I have suggested earlier.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="cjosephs1s, post: 5714250, member: 6683450"] I fail to see how when a monk turns level 20 and turns to an outsider that a lot of buffs don't work on him? The warblade/beguiler would be tough. Melee or spellcasting is at your disposal and reflex is your only bad save. Manuevers and stances can be taken to bolster your defenses or take things that are swift actions or immediate actions so you can still do whatever plus something cool. You still get all the beguiler skills so he can be sneaky and stealthy and all that stuff. Now he's tough enough to wade into melee to use the beguilers casting buffs. Plus bonus feats from warblade so your not using your core ones to bolster your other class, they can go for beguiler stuff. About the only thing this guy doesn't do is sneak attack, cast divine spells, or turn undead. Sounds like a pretty good combo. Make him Dex based fighter type though as this will bump your AC for light armor. I think its a PrC for Defense: dwarven defender. I remember something about them being able to take a beating. Overall advice I'd take your base classes till at least the high teens and wait to PrC until Epic as base classes get bupkiss then. Unless you can do racial progressions or add templates as I have suggested earlier. [/QUOTE]

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