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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RUMBLETiGER" data-source="post: 5714721" data-attributes="member: 6674868">So, I know we've diverted some from the OP, is....  ...still what you are going for? If so, let's break it down. Stealth options in base classes:-Rogue (By skills)-Beguiler (By skills and spells)-Tailored Cleric (By spells)-Tailored Wizard (By spells)-Tailered Sorcerer (By spells)-Scout (By skills and class abilities)-Warlock (By invocations)-Factotum (By skills and spells) Spontanious Arcane Casting:-Sorcerer-Bard-Beguiler-Warmage-Dread Necromancer-Warlock ...And many, many classes can wear good light armor.  And so, from this list (and anyone else feel free to add more options), what appears to be an ideal combo? Factotum lends itself well to any build based upon the use of Inspiriation Points are mostly Free actions. Having the full Wizard spell list to choose from, up to levle 7, is really useful. Also, having "All skills in the skill list" allows for skills like Iaijitsu Focus and Lucid Dreaming, if your DM will allow. Brains Over Brawn is like getting extra points to your stats at level 3. 2 standard actions a round at level 8. Choose to simply not die once a day at level 13. Int. is the primary stat. Gets light armor.  Beguiler has both skills and spells, plus some deception-flavored class abilities. The appeal of going Beguiler level 20 is the ability to overcome SR, bit if Factotum is the other side, you can do that at level 11. This allows for the Beguiler side to PrC or multiclass if you want without losing it's sexiness. Int. is the primary stat. Psion is much like a spontatious Arcane caster, except for the Arcane part. Many, many cool powers.  Some really good feats become accessable.  Access to a familar better than familiars.  No spell failure with armor. Int. is the primary stat.  So Factotum//Beguiler or Factotum//Psion will do cool things each round, while Beguiler//Psion will have a wide variety of possible things to do any given round.  Another set to consider... Warlock has those really reliably available invocations. Endless access to your power. Cha. based. Can wear light armor. Sorcerer has the spontaious casting, you can cherry pick spells for versatility. Cha. based. You will have arcane spell risks with armor though. Bard gives you the spontanious arcane casting, Cha. stat and the light armor. You can't be quiet when using your spells though. so Warlock//Sorcerer will grant you a variety of options, Warlock//Bard seems thematically messed up but could accomplish what you're trying for, and Sorcerer//Bard gives you a wide variety of spell options. I personaly would select an option from the Int. combo, for better skills, no risk of arcane spell failure, and the "every skill is a class skill" list.</blockquote>

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