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<blockquote data-quote="jmucchiello" data-source="post: 2227564" data-attributes="member: 813">IMO, Ravenloft is not really D&amp;D. It's horror fantasy. Horror games put lots of lockdowns on characters. As for your other examples, there is no reason why you shouldn't be allowed to teleport in and out of those dungeons except that the authors didn't want to deal with it. I consider that bad design.Why? Why does there have to be a point....? Again, either embrace high level play as written or don't play high level, but don't say it needs nerfing because otherwise it is impossible. It's not impossible.I'll run a murder mystery with 20th level characters. So you say commune tells you that Arch-Chancellor Gryphon is the murderer? Well, that's nice, now prove it. I'm sure the Arch-Chancellor can pony up a few clerics of other religions who will testify that commune with their deity exonerates the AC. Deities also can lie.If you propose that there are rocks with dimensional locks on them, I hope you also provide them for sell to the PCs, too. When my wizard could, she created a object with dimesional anchor. When Dlock became available, the object was updated. (This object is kept in her safehouse.) My character preventing others from scry/buff/teleport doesn't stop her from doing the SBT if she can. It's just how high level D&amp;D is.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jmucchiello, post: 2227564, member: 813"] IMO, Ravenloft is not really D&D. It's horror fantasy. Horror games put lots of lockdowns on characters. As for your other examples, there is no reason why you shouldn't be allowed to teleport in and out of those dungeons except that the authors didn't want to deal with it. I consider that bad design. Why? Why does there have to be a point....? Again, either embrace high level play as written or don't play high level, but don't say it needs nerfing because otherwise it is impossible. It's not impossible. I'll run a murder mystery with 20th level characters. So you say commune tells you that Arch-Chancellor Gryphon is the murderer? Well, that's nice, now prove it. I'm sure the Arch-Chancellor can pony up a few clerics of other religions who will testify that commune with their deity exonerates the AC. Deities also can lie. If you propose that there are rocks with dimensional locks on them, I hope you also provide them for sell to the PCs, too. When my wizard could, she created a object with dimesional anchor. When Dlock became available, the object was updated. (This object is kept in her safehouse.) My character preventing others from scry/buff/teleport doesn't stop her from doing the SBT if she can. It's just how high level D&D is. [/QUOTE]

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