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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Zoom" data-source="post: 46194" data-attributes="member: 409">How is it compared to the other core classes?&nbsp; Using the Class Construction Engine, your ranger comes to 275 total CP's (character points).&nbsp; The other fighting classes have 245 (barbarian and fighter) and 257 (paladin).&nbsp; The core ranger is the &quot;weakest&quot; with 237.&nbsp; Your ranger is much more powerful than all the others, especially the core ranger.I think the core ranger needs tweaking, but not much.&nbsp; I have come to believe that if you increase the spell list and progression chart, and give him a couple of abilities at 2nd and 3rd level, you have done well.&nbsp; The ranger I use has 256 points, almost even with the paladin.Of course, your ranger is radically different than the core class.&nbsp; It looks too much like the fighter at the first 4 levels except for the d8 HD, which is not too much lower.&nbsp; On top of this, he has triple the skill points of a fighter and good reflex saves.&nbsp; It is unbalanced, IMO, for these reasons.&nbsp; You might want to make a prestige class that has no spells, the good reflex saves, the 6 skill points, the d8 HD, and either feats or special abilities.&nbsp; Call it a Scout or whatever fits your ideas.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dr. Zoom, post: 46194, member: 409"] How is it compared to the other core classes? Using the Class Construction Engine, your ranger comes to 275 total CP's (character points). The other fighting classes have 245 (barbarian and fighter) and 257 (paladin). The core ranger is the "weakest" with 237. Your ranger is much more powerful than all the others, especially the core ranger. I think the core ranger needs tweaking, but not much. I have come to believe that if you increase the spell list and progression chart, and give him a couple of abilities at 2nd and 3rd level, you have done well. The ranger I use has 256 points, almost even with the paladin. Of course, your ranger is radically different than the core class. It looks too much like the fighter at the first 4 levels except for the d8 HD, which is not too much lower. On top of this, he has triple the skill points of a fighter and good reflex saves. It is unbalanced, IMO, for these reasons. You might want to make a prestige class that has no spells, the good reflex saves, the 6 skill points, the d8 HD, and either feats or special abilities. Call it a Scout or whatever fits your ideas. [/QUOTE]

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