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Message: <blockquote data-quote="turd ferguson" data-source="post: 7404248" data-attributes="member: 6948751">Actually I think the build is fine.1.+2+1 to ability score (same as wood elf)2. speed 35 (same as wood elf)3. At Kobold's suggestion I stuck with gaining proficiency in Athletics and also doubling the proficiency bonus. 4. At Kobold's suggestion proficiency at acrobatics (swapped from Keen Senses).5. Weapon proficiency (changed from Elf weapon training ):Quarterstaff, glaive, halberd, and pike (again, following a wood elf's traits, this should fit no problem) Coroc understands the need to have this, because of Sun Wukong's story and how using these weapons would be important to them as they emulate him as much as they can. Again, this is more for flavor, if not I would have put, "Proficient in martial weapons." Also, Cap'n, there are only 4 out of 12 classes that allow characters to use martial weapons, and there is not one other class that uses any of the four proficiently.6. Disguise self. (Instead of mask of the Wild) You make yourself—including your clothing, armor, weapons, and other belongings on your person—look different until the spell ends or until you use your action to dismiss it. You can seem 1 foot shorter or taller and can appear thin, fat, or in between. You can't change your body type, so you must adopt a form that has the same basic arrangement of limbs. Otherwise, the extent of the illusion is up to you.The changes wrought by this spell fail to hold up to physical inspection. For example, if you use this spell to add a hat to your outfit, objects pass through the hat, and anyone who touches it would feel nothing or would feel your head and hair. If you use this spell to appear thinner that you are, the hand of someone who reaches out to touch you would bump into you while it was seemingly still in mid air.To discern that you are disguised, a creature can use its action to inspect your appearance and must succeed on an Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC. This can be used once a day can be used after a short or long rest.Actually Cap'n, I think disguise self is WAY much more weaker than shapechange. Disguise self is an illusion spell whereas, shapchanger is a transmutation spell. So there is a big difference between looking like one vs. changing to one. And there are more cons vs pro.Disguise self cons:1.You only look different2. You can't change body type3. You must adopt a form that has the basic arrangement of limbs.4. Fails on physical inspection.Whereas in shapechanger you have these strong pros:1. You assume the form of a different creature.2. If you revert as a result of dropping to 0 hit points, any excess damage carries over to your normal form. (Extra HP)3. As long as the excess damage doesn’t reduce your normal form to 0 hitpoints, you aren’t knocked unconscious.4. You retain the benefit of any features from your class, race, or other source and can use them.5. Also you said, " ...the changeling Shapechanger racial ability, which cannot affect clothes or equipment." Actually, "When you transform, you choose whether (A) your equipment falls to the ground, (B) merges into the new form, or is (C) worn by it.Again, comparing this race vs. the woodland elf, they share many similarities. Only one trait was completely changed. Instead of Fey Ancestry, we chose gaining proficiency in Athletics and also doubling the proficiency bonus. Other than that, I would say this is a fair trade off that doesn't have any major skills that make the Wukong OP.</blockquote>

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