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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5726196" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>First of all, if the human inclination is sufficient to believe in its superiority to other mortals alone, then that's sufficient enough inclination to explain 90% of the behavior he requires of his nation. The remaining 10% is easily explained by, "We have been wronged." You don't have to insist on human rationality, especially given the abundent evidence of human irrationality.</p><p></p><p>Plus, while you are emphasizing one difference between the D&D universe and our own, namely the tangible presence of monsterous creatures of superhuman power, you are neglecting to emphasis the other equally important difference between the D&D universe and own. Namely, in the D&D universe humans can legitimately acquire demigod-like super-heroic power. Those dragons and demons and stuff may overawe real humans by comparison, but they must certainly do not overawe the humans of the D&D world and we have countless examples to demonstrate that. Quite unlike the real world, in the D&D world you can aspire to be a god and even dare to make war on the gods. If you think human hubris is great now, imagine when they can become 20th level characters. If you think human hubris is great now, imagine what it is like in a world where you really can make things happen because you will them to happen.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Human history shows that anyone who acquires the latter tends to use it to spread their culture, beliefs, language, politics, and systems to their neighbors - for good or ill, with our without the consent of the recievers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I disagree. When it comes to hubris, real humans have no parallel., and seizing the universe by force if necessary is something mankind begins to fantacize about from the time they are barely able to walk. Every three year old would lead a war on the heavens if they could. Imagine then what it would be like if said three year olds could grow up into to customed sword and sorcery ubermensch? Heck, for some players of RPGs, this is actually the main attraction.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5726196, member: 4937"] First of all, if the human inclination is sufficient to believe in its superiority to other mortals alone, then that's sufficient enough inclination to explain 90% of the behavior he requires of his nation. The remaining 10% is easily explained by, "We have been wronged." You don't have to insist on human rationality, especially given the abundent evidence of human irrationality. Plus, while you are emphasizing one difference between the D&D universe and our own, namely the tangible presence of monsterous creatures of superhuman power, you are neglecting to emphasis the other equally important difference between the D&D universe and own. Namely, in the D&D universe humans can legitimately acquire demigod-like super-heroic power. Those dragons and demons and stuff may overawe real humans by comparison, but they must certainly do not overawe the humans of the D&D world and we have countless examples to demonstrate that. Quite unlike the real world, in the D&D world you can aspire to be a god and even dare to make war on the gods. If you think human hubris is great now, imagine when they can become 20th level characters. If you think human hubris is great now, imagine what it is like in a world where you really can make things happen because you will them to happen. Human history shows that anyone who acquires the latter tends to use it to spread their culture, beliefs, language, politics, and systems to their neighbors - for good or ill, with our without the consent of the recievers. I disagree. When it comes to hubris, real humans have no parallel., and seizing the universe by force if necessary is something mankind begins to fantacize about from the time they are barely able to walk. Every three year old would lead a war on the heavens if they could. Imagine then what it would be like if said three year olds could grow up into to customed sword and sorcery ubermensch? Heck, for some players of RPGs, this is actually the main attraction. [/QUOTE]
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