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<blockquote data-quote="Herzog" data-source="post: 5115464" data-attributes="member: 25696">I've recently requested help building Flint Fireforge, and have since been asked by a fellow player for help building his character, Tasslehoff Burrfoot.&nbsp;He's currently got four levels of Rogue, and is interested in getting more out of his 'Kenderness'.&nbsp;We've actually found a very nice prestige class for him: the Handler from the War of the Lance. However, given our DM's reluctance to include additional books, we're still looking for an alternative.&nbsp;We're looking for something that provides Bardic Knowledge (or something similar), stealth (hide in plain sight etc), skillpoints, and maybe something similar to Bardic Music.&nbsp;The easy way would be to simply add levels of Bard, but the problem there is that it's not really 'Sneaky', and Bardic Music (and spells) do not really fit well with the Kender image (IMO)&nbsp;I'm also looking for something that would pay off soon, since I am under the impression the campaign will halt at lvl 12, so anything that you can't get into until lvl 11 isn't really worth it IMO.&nbsp;We're restricted to PHB, DMG, Complete Arcane, Complete Warrior, Complete Divine, Complete Adventurer.&nbsp;His current stats are:[code]Race: KenderClass: Rogue 4&nbsp;Str 14Dex 16Con 14Int 12Wis 10Cha 11&nbsp;Alignment: N&nbsp;Feats: Stealth, Point Blank Shot&nbsp;Skills:Bluff 5Climb 7Craft (cartography) 1Hide 7Listen 4Move Silently 7Open Lock 5Search 5Sleight of Hand 5Spot 4Tumble 5Use Magic Device 2Speak Language 1[/code]&nbsp;Any suggestions apreciated.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Herzog, post: 5115464, member: 25696"] I've recently requested help building Flint Fireforge, and have since been asked by a fellow player for help building his character, Tasslehoff Burrfoot. He's currently got four levels of Rogue, and is interested in getting more out of his 'Kenderness'. We've actually found a very nice prestige class for him: the Handler from the War of the Lance. However, given our DM's reluctance to include additional books, we're still looking for an alternative. We're looking for something that provides Bardic Knowledge (or something similar), stealth (hide in plain sight etc), skillpoints, and maybe something similar to Bardic Music. The easy way would be to simply add levels of Bard, but the problem there is that it's not really 'Sneaky', and Bardic Music (and spells) do not really fit well with the Kender image (IMO) I'm also looking for something that would pay off soon, since I am under the impression the campaign will halt at lvl 12, so anything that you can't get into until lvl 11 isn't really worth it IMO. We're restricted to PHB, DMG, Complete Arcane, Complete Warrior, Complete Divine, Complete Adventurer. His current stats are: [code] Race: Kender Class: Rogue 4 Str 14 Dex 16 Con 14 Int 12 Wis 10 Cha 11 Alignment: N Feats: Stealth, Point Blank Shot Skills: Bluff 5 Climb 7 Craft (cartography) 1 Hide 7 Listen 4 Move Silently 7 Open Lock 5 Search 5 Sleight of Hand 5 Spot 4 Tumble 5 Use Magic Device 2 Speak Language 1 [/code] Any suggestions apreciated. [/QUOTE]

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