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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 5117953" data-attributes="member: 2209">Bards are plenty sneaky: six skill points a level and bluff, hide, move silent, and sleight of hand as class skills. with an 11 charisma and less than 3 ranks of performance won't be doing much bardic music or magic.Ghost sound could be done as a good ventriloquism/bird call type trick, and know direction could be just a good direction sense.Detect Secret Doors, Grease, Hideous Laughter, Remove Fear, and Ventriloquism could be described as tricks that a kender pulls off instead of as magic and work pretty well. A kender reaches into his pouch and pulls out a random jar of bacon fat a housewife was going to use in making some cornbread, the kender hurls the jar which breaks and spreads the greasy contents to the effects of a grease spell.Alternatively picking up skills like knowledge local and maybe a touch of geography, history, or religion work fine for representing a kender general wanderer hodge podge of knowledge. A few ranks but not too many, most of his knowledge should come from bluff and outdated pre-cataclysm maps <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 5117953, member: 2209"] Bards are plenty sneaky: six skill points a level and bluff, hide, move silent, and sleight of hand as class skills. with an 11 charisma and less than 3 ranks of performance won't be doing much bardic music or magic. Ghost sound could be done as a good ventriloquism/bird call type trick, and know direction could be just a good direction sense. Detect Secret Doors, Grease, Hideous Laughter, Remove Fear, and Ventriloquism could be described as tricks that a kender pulls off instead of as magic and work pretty well. A kender reaches into his pouch and pulls out a random jar of bacon fat a housewife was going to use in making some cornbread, the kender hurls the jar which breaks and spreads the greasy contents to the effects of a grease spell. Alternatively picking up skills like knowledge local and maybe a touch of geography, history, or religion work fine for representing a kender general wanderer hodge podge of knowledge. A few ranks but not too many, most of his knowledge should come from bluff and outdated pre-cataclysm maps :) [/QUOTE]

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