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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IcyCool" data-source="post: 2152395" data-attributes="member: 20308">Sound like I need to drop the EL just a bit, but it certainly discourages a frontal assault.  I can't get to the EL calculator that was linked to earlier in this thread (blocked, and no working PC at home), does anyone have a different link?I'm thinking I'd like to drop the EL of the whole camp down to around 10, any suggestions on how to do that?  That should be still very difficult to survive if they are foolish about it.Here's how I'm envisioning the camp setup:Main tent at the center of the camp houses the Cleric.  The loot that the raiders have collected is stashed here.  The two tents nearest house the Cleric's bodyguards.The surrounding 6 tents house the remaining Gnolls (two tents house two Gnolls).The hounds are chained to an old tree in the eastern portion of the camp, inside the circle of tents.The Marrash is currently waiting to carry a letter of progress to the Cleric's master, and stays in a small cliffside cave about a hundred yards away from the camp during the day.There are two guards on patrol at any given time, with the rest of the camp being active during the night.  If the need arises, the Houndmaster, one Hound, and two Gnoll flunkies can be dispatched to scout around the camp.  The two hunting parties go out every few days to loot and cause mayhem.  The group has been here for a little over a month, and have started to let their guard down.The druid scouted the area and managed to warn and help defend a small farming community against one of the raiding parties (all three hounds in that group were severely wounded by call lighting), and is now winging his way back to the group to warn them about it.  They will likely deal with that raiding party before getting to the camp.I'm looking for a challenging encounter that will only turn into a likely TPK if they are foolish about their plan.  Suggestions?</blockquote>

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