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<blockquote data-quote="Iku Rex" data-source="post: 2680521" data-attributes="member: 752">In your experience, are 12th level Str based fighters with a base Str score of 10 (before racial modifiers) and no magic weapon common?&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing&nbsp; &nbsp; :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> This character will deal 11,5 and 10,5 damage, for effective attacks of +11/+6/+1, 22 damage.What has the fighters's race got to do with anything? Let's give this fighter the same Str as the other one - we&nbsp; want &quot;all things to be equal&quot; right? That makes +17/+12/+7, for 13,5 damage.&nbsp;Again, let's make all things equal. Str 14. And let's be reasonable and have him make the smart choice and dual-wield short swords instead. +15/+10/+5, 18 damageIrrelevant, as we're not trying to find out if Str 14 fighters tend to be better than Str 10 fighters. Race has nothing to do with it. Since you've now revealed that you posted the Str 10 fighters for no discernable reason, let's make &quot;all things equal&quot; and do the dry number crunching on your characters. Since you object to the use of he must-have fighter-feat Power Attack, we'll leave that out of it.(Assumes Improved Critical)[CODE]AC&nbsp; &nbsp; 2GAx&nbsp; &nbsp; 1GAx&nbsp; &nbsp; 2SS18&nbsp; &nbsp; 35,6&nbsp; &nbsp; 35,6&nbsp; &nbsp; 42,123&nbsp; &nbsp; 18,4&nbsp; &nbsp; 24,3&nbsp; &nbsp; 25,828&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 7,7&nbsp; &nbsp; 12,9&nbsp; &nbsp; 12,7[/CODE]Imagine that...If you factor in optimal Power Attack, the numbers become 42,6 - 25,2 - 12,9 for the 1 greataxe wielder. Very much the better option considering the extra feats that character will have.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Iku Rex, post: 2680521, member: 752"] In your experience, are 12th level Str based fighters with a base Str score of 10 (before racial modifiers) and no magic weapon common? :lol: This character will deal 11,5 and 10,5 damage, for effective attacks of +11/+6/+1, 22 damage. What has the fighters's race got to do with anything? Let's give this fighter the same Str as the other one - we want "all things to be equal" right? That makes +17/+12/+7, for 13,5 damage. Again, let's make all things equal. Str 14. And let's be reasonable and have him make the smart choice and dual-wield short swords instead. +15/+10/+5, 18 damage Irrelevant, as we're not trying to find out if Str 14 fighters tend to be better than Str 10 fighters. Race has nothing to do with it. Since you've now revealed that you posted the Str 10 fighters for no discernable reason, let's make "all things equal" and do the dry number crunching on your characters. Since you object to the use of he must-have fighter-feat Power Attack, we'll leave that out of it. (Assumes Improved Critical) [CODE]AC 2GAx 1GAx 2SS 18 35,6 35,6 42,1 23 18,4 24,3 25,8 28 7,7 12,9 12,7[/CODE] Imagine that... If you factor in optimal Power Attack, the numbers become 42,6 - 25,2 - 12,9 for the 1 greataxe wielder. Very much the better option considering the extra feats that character will have. [/QUOTE]

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